November 26, 2025Nov 26 sf_flyer just wanted to flex with his r/w aircraft ownership. A comparison between pricing models of addon aircraft for a sim with cessna fuel caps is obviously unnecessary. Why not compare pricing models of Fenix vs. PMDG or Justflight vs. PMDG?
November 26, 2025Nov 26 1 hour ago, sd_flyer said: I know you guys keep complaining about pricing? LOL Let me break down some cost involving ownership of a small airplane: Lets start with some very inexpensive items: Cessna deluxe towbar $269.00 https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/deluxe_towbars.php?clickkey=12627754 Fuel cap $183.00 https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cessnaparts8.php?clickkey=231621 Now, let say we want GTN750 NXI $19095.00. This is of course without installation https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ngar750.php?clickkey=6625130 I don't know about you ,but I would be happy to pay $100+ to have a something that resembles real aircraft. 🙂 Not sure I follow? I don't feel any better about what tires cost me at the track because they are free in the sim... I do like having access to unlimited sets though. At least airplane tires last more than an hour 😂 Not to mention $12-$15/gallon when you are only getting 3 MPG LOL... We actually joke in motor racing the fastest way to become a millionaire is to start with a billion... Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
November 26, 2025Nov 26 8 hours ago, chapstick said: Ground handling is bad in 2024, It isn't. 6 hours ago, chapstick said: planes skid around like on ice Depends on if the aircraft are taking full advantage of the systems. The Fenix for example handles wonderfully, as do the A350 and A340 Edited November 26, 2025Nov 26 by Tuskin38
November 26, 2025Nov 26 2 hours ago, Lucky38i said: I really don’t get these arguments because these aren’t real planes, this is a game on a desktop computer where we pretend to fly. What bearing does the cost of a real plane have here? Im not buying plane addons because I think I’m getting a bargain compared to real life, they’re entirely different experiences, ridiculous comparison. When you don’t have access to real life experiences that is all you have left to simulate in virtual world. If you don’t understand it now you will understand it later. flight sim addict, airplane owner, CFI
November 26, 2025Nov 26 6 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: If you don’t understand it now you will understand it later. Hopefully later then because I definitely don't understand the point you are trying to make now LOL 🤔 7 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: When you don’t have access to real life experiences that is all you have left to simulate in virtual world. I mean this seems a little belittling to probably the vast majority of users on the forum who probably don't "have access to" or "choose" not to fly in real life. Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
November 26, 2025Nov 26 7 minutes ago, psolk said: Hopefully later then because I definitely don't understand the point you are trying to make now LOL 🤔 I mean this seems a little belittling to probably the vast majority of users on the forum who probably don't "have access to" or "choose" not to fly in real life. My point is simple we expect simulation as real we can get for a one time fee and think this is expensive . I think back in early days of flight simming people were just happy to have something . Nowadays technology offers so much! I understand this is normal human nature to want more and pay less. I just gave a glimpse of simple stuff in real world that shouldn’t cost that much but unfortunately they do . When it comes to PMDG prices obviously customers have choice to vote with their wallet . I personally think PMDG doesn’t charge high enough given circumstances of economy in US flight sim addict, airplane owner, CFI
November 26, 2025Nov 26 21 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: I personally think PMDG doesn’t charge high enough given circumstances of economy in US It is an addon for a game that cannot be attributed to real world training, what are you on about lol? You want PMDG to price out their majority customer base? Sounds like an excellent business model 59 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: When you don’t have access to real life experiences that is all you have left to simulate in virtual world. If you don’t understand it now you will understand it later. I don’t think I’ll understand later as this statement has made me even more confused. When I buy a car in a racing game for £5 bucks I don’t think, “wow this is so cheap compared to real life! Why isn’t it more expensive?!” I really hope you don’t…. Right?
November 27, 2025Nov 27 4 hours ago, sd_flyer said: I personally think PMDG doesn’t charge high enough given circumstances of economy in US Rolling my eyes so hard that I’m having trouble seeing what I’m typing
November 27, 2025Nov 27 It wouldn't be Avsim without one developer = complaining/bashing for 6 pages. To keep things hopeful: Hopefully PMDG keeps their 2024 upgrade fee minimal. I love there 737 series and have loved their 777 since release as well. They are a business, pure and simple. So is JF, BlackSquare, Fenix, IniBuilds, SimWorks, FlightSimWare, FlightFX and....gasp....Carenado! 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 It would be really nice to have the 2024 compatible -800 available for some flying over the Christmas holidays. Fingers crossed! Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
November 27, 2025Nov 27 I would prefer the -600 and -900ER to satisfy my Christmas holiday requirements Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 27, 2025Nov 27 47 minutes ago, regis9 said: It would be really nice to have the 2024 compatible -800 available for some flying over the Christmas holidays. Fingers crossed! It's always been a favourite that ticks my boxes, a 'classic' aircraft updated with some modern avionics. Like you say, fingers crossed. FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
November 27, 2025Nov 27 13 hours ago, Lucky38i said: It is an addon for a game that cannot be attributed to real world training, what are you on about lol? Yes a game, but how do you know it cannot be use as training aid? We should ask about this those who fly here 737 for a living flight sim addict, airplane owner, CFI
November 27, 2025Nov 27 10 hours ago, chapstick said: Rolling my eyes so hard that I’m having trouble seeing what I’m typing Good health insurance should help flight sim addict, airplane owner, CFI
November 27, 2025Nov 27 CptCanada allegedly said on stream that he has early access the 2024 737 and will be streaming it this weekend Edited November 27, 2025Nov 27 by Tuskin38
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