2 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

......The AI generated buildings for cities is a vast improvement over 2020, better capturing regional differences......

One step closer to making the switch to MSFS 2024..........

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But one area 2020 did better was with certain rural buildings. Areas that used to have grain silos have been replaced with square buildings for example.

......and then I am stopped in my tracks by this 

Honestly, if MSFS 2024 had been a solid upgrade in all departments, I would have installed it on a brand new PC ages ago. I know this may sound daft, but the main reason that I have not upgraded yet is because I worry that there will be stuff that looks worse than MSFS 2020. I know that lots of things will probably look better, but I am one of those "glass half empty" guys. I see the flaws!

What made you take a chance on MSFS2020 and from which other sim? 

28 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

One step closer to making the switch to MSFS 2024..........

......and then I am stopped in my tracks by this 

Honestly, if MSFS 2024 had been a solid upgrade in all departments, I would have installed it on a brand new PC ages ago. I know this may sound daft, but the main reason that I have not upgraded yet is because I worry that there will be stuff that looks worse than MSFS 2020. I know that lots of things will probably look better, but I am one of those "glass half empty" guys. I see the flaws!

99% of it looks better IMHO. Those missing silos are the only thing I have noticed where 2020 was better. I made that comment with the hope that MS will improve rural areas someday and make them feel more authentic like they have done to cities. Not to imply that rural areas in general look much worse than in 2020.
 

So would you rather miss out on the 99% to keep the 1%? Honestly, I deleted 2020 months ago and haven’t taken a single flight in it since 2024 launched. Just never had any desire to go fly in it. The entire world looks much more authentic and visually pleasing in 2024.

However, I am definitely not encouraging you to transition. Sounds like you have plenty of self-awareness about how you would perceive it. It’s not perfect, but to me significantly better than 2020 using SU3 Beta. And it’s where most new development efforts will be focused both at Asobo and 3rd party devs. We’re starting to already see that shift with several developers.
 

So if you focus on the gaps like what’s missing, wrong, etc., I would stick with what you’re familiar. After all, this is supposed to be fun and bring you joy, not be a cause for frustration. You can make the leap whenever you choose. But at the end of the day, it’s a piece of software that cost $70-130. So if you decide to eventually pick it up and then find you don’t like it, shelve it until it gets to a point where you do. I’ve wasted more money on a poor dining experience than what it costs.

To be fair, I made that post before remembering that my PMDG 737-600 is not officially compatible with MSFS 2024, so I may not have upgraded up this point. As for taking a chance on MSFS 2020, it took me three years to summon up the courage to make the switch from P3Dv4. Part of the reason was all of the fantastic looking airport addons that were being developed for it, but also the fact that the PMDG 737 was available, and also because I just thought that it had received lots of upgrades and fixes since it was released.

I will continue to monitor the situation, but I do need that PMDG 737......

11 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

Areas that used to have grain silos have been replaced with square buildings for example

2020 never had grain silos modelled.

The first US World updates added autogen barns, but I don't believe they were enabled, you needed to mod the autogen config files to get them to show.

8 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I worry that there will be stuff that looks worse than MSFS 2020.

There's nothing in 2024 that looks worse than 2020 imo

Edited August 16, 2025Aug 16 by Tuskin38

37 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

2020 never had grain silos modelled.

The first US World updates added autogen barns, but I don't believe they were enabled, you needed to mod the autogen config files to get them to show.

Nah, the grain silos are modeled in 2020 where I live. I haven’t checked the entire globe. And it doesn’t matter when they were added to 2020, they are provided by Asobo within the sim and I didn’t need to mod or change any files. And yes, those are better in 2020. 
 

But I’ve proven you wrong before with your declarative disputations with no apology or recognition from you that you were wrong after making misinformed statements.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/675925-msfs-developer-twitch-qa-for-july-23/#findComment-5528542

 

Edited August 16, 2025Aug 16 by Gulf76

15 hours ago, Cloud Surfing said:

 

@Dermot McClusky
I guess I’m one of the people you made a parody of 🙂

Not at all. You actually had something to talk about. The people I'm parodying go to a topic they don't have an interest in, say, "I'm not interested in this, sorry," and then leave. I make fun of them because I find it fascinating and so very odd to do that. 

On 8/16/2025 at 12:16 PM, Gulf76 said:

But I’ve proven you wrong before with your declarative disputations with no apology or recognition from you that you were wrong after making misinformed statements.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/675925-msfs-developer-twitch-qa-for-july-23/#findComment-5528542

I didn't see that you replied to me.

But unless you can provide me a screenshot from an un-modded 2020, I won't believe you about the grain silos.

I can't find anything on google about silos and barns in 2020, other than people complaining they don't exist.

the first US World Update Autogen still works because I can still see shopping malls and gas stations, which were something added in that update.

Edited August 17, 2025Aug 17 by Tuskin38

 

Did they ever add custom sounds to the PAC P-750 XSTOL or does it still use the default Caravan sounds? Only an extra $15 for it in the one Jurassic World bundle.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by Gulf76

Trailer is a little bit slim, no? Are those buildings accesible by walking? Are there smaller Dinosaurs? Do they move around also in the forests? Plenty of open questions 🤣

6 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Trailer is a little bit slim, no? Are those buildings accesible by walking? Are there smaller Dinosaurs? Do they move around also in the forests? Plenty of open questions 🤣

Can we virtual pilots be chased and hunted down by velociraptors and T-rexes and virtually eaten?

Can pterodactyls attack our ultralight plane and shoot it down?  😁

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by iborg1979

No expense spared!

2 hours ago, AnkH said:

Trailer is a little bit slim, no? Are those buildings accesible by walking? Are there smaller Dinosaurs? Do they move around also in the forests? Plenty of open questions 🤣

Found this on YouTube.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by Tuskin38

Ouch!

31.99 USD. Pretty high for such a niche product. Good luck with it but I'll wait for a sale and decide then if I need it.