March 26, 20242 yr I have noticed that with DLSS on, my Fenix displays are pretty blurry. I get good performance though and i don't get any outside shimmering in the distance or on airport objects. With TAA on, I get sharp Fenix cockpit displays, good performance, but awful shimmering on airport objects and things in the distance. Has Asobo said anything that will be done in the future to address any of this? I have always used TAA, but the last 2 flights switched to DLSS and thought it looked better outside the plane. I am on DX11 if that makes any difference. Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
March 26, 20242 yr I use DLSS with DLAA, it helps slightly with the blurring. I agree, I see shimmering with TAA. Lee Lee H i9 13900KF 64GB Ram 24GB RTX 4090
March 26, 20242 yr Author Just now, Midnight Music said: I use DLSS with DLAA, it helps slightly with the blurring. I agree, I see shimmering with TAA. Lee Dumb question, how do you use DLSS with DLAA? I only see one or the other in the settings Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
March 26, 20242 yr 48 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said: Dumb question, how do you use DLSS with DLAA? I only see one or the other in the settings Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA). Edited March 26, 20242 yr by touchdown84 Windows 11 Pro - Ryzen 3 5900X - nVidia RTX 4090 - 32GB DDR4-3600 === Microsoft Flight Simulator
March 26, 20242 yr Author 15 minutes ago, touchdown84 said: Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA). I don't think i have an option for DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA. Is that in the sim or in Nvidia settings? Intel Core i7 12700K (5.0GHz Max Boost Clock) 12-Core CPU 32GB G.Skill Performance DDR4 SDRAM 3600MHz Graphics Processor:12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, GDDR6x System 2TB Western Digital, NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
March 26, 20242 yr There is nothing in TAA that should result in shimmering -- unless you're over-sharpening the image. I use TAA at 4K with the in-sim sharpening option set to 70. The cockpit and ground scenery look perfect, with no blurring and no shimmering at all. Above 70, shimmering begins, and the higher you set the sharpening option above 70, the more shimmering you'll see. Edited March 26, 20242 yr by David Mills Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
March 26, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said: I don't think i have an option for DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA. Is that in the sim or in Nvidia settings? https://imgur.com/a/GP7GYWr Windows 11 Pro - Ryzen 3 5900X - nVidia RTX 4090 - 32GB DDR4-3600 === Microsoft Flight Simulator
March 27, 20242 yr 6 hours ago, touchdown84 said: Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA). On my system the negative performance impact when using DLAA is enormous. And therefore DLAA is unusable. It was also unusable when I had a 3070 and Ryzen 5600 instead of now having 4070 and Ryzen 58003DX. DLAA has never been usable for me. Stutters, less than 1/2 the fps. Terrible. But DLSS Quality is smooth as glass and fps 75 to 105. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
March 27, 20242 yr Dx11 and TAA here... Even in dx12 with fsr3 fg I never liked DLSS. Edited March 27, 20242 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
March 27, 20242 yr TAA for quality, DLSS if your GPU is the bottleneck. DLSS / DLAA is deep learning AA at native resolution and does not bring any performance benefit. Displays and water from low altitude will look bad in both cases and there is no remedy. It's just a subpar implementation in this game, as well as DX12. 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
March 27, 20242 yr From the last Asobo Q&A it seems they forgot to put the fix they found for blurry cockpit screen with DLSS… hope that’s true and it makes to SU15 Pierre
March 27, 20242 yr DLSS is a mess. TAA all the way, the higher quality is very noticeable. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
March 27, 20242 yr I don't know... I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good. Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
March 27, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, anden145 said: I don't know... I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good. Well that's strange. They haven't fixed it yet. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
March 27, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, anden145 said: I don't know... I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good. Same here. I think 4K is the key. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
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