28 minutes ago, Hatch76 said:

Everyone talks about undervolting, but after overclocking my CPU and the learning curve that came with it, I don’t really feel like learning this whole ordeal now… would like a bit cooler temps though. 

 

 

Rather simple, but you have to test some hours to hit the sweet spot.

I can tell you that my EVGA 3080 12GB gives my APC 750ES fits (alarm starts beeping like crazy) once I start pushing render scale way up. These new graphics cards draw a ton of wattage.

 

Look at bthe power usage 🙂

 

On 5/5/2022 at 2:49 PM, RJC68 said:

I have an i5-9600K clocked at 5Ghz, a 1080TI & 32GB DDR4 3000. I run MSFS locked @ 30fps in full 4K on a 43 inch TCL TV. I generally find my CPU usage sits around 60% and I try and keep my GPU below 90%.

My CPU choice is the i5-12600K (Of course with new MB & RAM) or a 12GB 3080. I only want to do one right now but this upgrade decision is way harder than any others I have faced lol I know my 1080TI is the bottleneck at the moment so would it be better to upgrade to a 12GB 3080 first?

TLDR: 3080 now, I5-13 or 14 later.

The 9600K is not all that old, I'd just stick with that for a few more generations unless you've got lots of cash spare. The 12600K offers a circa 35% improvement but you will not see anywhere near this since you are bottlenecked by the GPU. You will need a new motherboard too as the 12th gen is a new socket, so that puts costs up.

Get the 3080 and you'll see an immediate improvement although you will become CPU bottlenecked you can review the CPU in another 12 months when DDR5 availability improves and actually outperforms DDR4, then you can comfortably get a DDR5 motherboard.

Edited May 6, 20224 yr by ckyliu

1 hour ago, ckyliu said:

TLDR: 3080 now, I5-13 or 14 later.

The 9600K is not all that old, I'd just stick with that for a few more generations unless you've got lots of cash spare. The 12600K offers a circa 35% improvement but you will not see anywhere near this since you are bottlenecked by the GPU. You will need a new motherboard too as the 12th gen is a new socket, so that puts costs up.

Get the 3080 and you'll see an immediate improvement although you will become CPU bottlenecked you can review the CPU in another 12 months when DDR5 availability improves and actually outperforms DDR4, then you can comfortably get a DDR5 motherboard.

Thank you,

That makes sense. Part of me is saying hang on and see what the RTX 40 cards will be pricewise and then the price of the RTX 30 cards would also continue to fall.

I have found a 2 month old Gigabyte 3080 TI FE for $1,400 CDN, that is $50 more than the Gigabyte RTX 3080 12GB that I have seen brand new in a local store. I am going to give it some thought but the 3080TI is looking like the better deal.

Edited May 6, 20224 yr by RJC68

I took the opposite route to you but I was CPU bound (was i5-2500K now running an I5-12400F) and I'm  sticking with my GTX980 bottleneck until the low tier 4000 series comes out (I'll likely be looking at 4060). I expect availability issues for graphics card to ease in Q3-Q4 for graphics card generally, which should start to return pricing to more normal levels, and as you said the 4000 series release will drive down 3000 series prices too.

Edited May 6, 20224 yr by ckyliu

I have an i7-10400K overclocked at 5.1Ghz, a 3070 TI & 32GB DDR4 3000.
My 3070 Ti replaced a 1080. I went from 25 FPS on average to 45 FPS. And nothing in red in the FPS display of development mode ! It's a good choice before upgrading to the 3080 or 3090.

[email protected] —> 12900ks @ 5.2GHz-5.5GHz (hard to tell).

1080ti Founders’ Edition —> 3090ti Founders’ Edition.

~35fps —> ~45fps in FBW 320 Neo at EGLL Gate 518 (4K, consistent settings).

Excruciating load time —> fractionally less excruciating load time.

GPU-bound —> CPU-bound.

Actual experience: it does work appreciably better with the higher specs, approach/touchdown at heavy airports (EDDF) is notably better. 
 

Value for money: obviously not.

Edited May 6, 20224 yr by tfm

I am curious about VRAM usage in SU9, I typically see around 8gb - 9gb on my 1080TI in 4K @ 30fps with mostly high settings and a few on ultra. I do run with terrain & contact shadows off currently 

To those of you with a 12GB 3080 or a 3080TI how are you finding the VRAM usage at 4K.

It seems to have gone down over the last couple of updates. 

8 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

I am curious about VRAM usage in SU9, I typically see around 8gb - 9gb on my 1080TI in 4K @ 30fps with mostly high settings and a few on ultra. I do run with terrain & contact shadows off currently 

To those of you with a 12GB 3080 or a 3080TI how are you finding the VRAM usage at 4K.

It seems to have gone down over the last couple of updates. 

Not spent much time with it yet but my experience with a new 3090ti is that VRAM useage is easily within limits: EGLL to EDDF in the FBW 320 neo at 4K , VRAM never more than about 10Gb. 
 

also … tbh I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding here about the importance of this variable. Windows / MSFS will make / should make use of whatever it has at its disposal. What’s disappointing, is when resources are not 100% used.

21 hours ago, tfm said:

[email protected] —> 12900ks @ 5.2GHz-5.5GHz (hard to tell).

1080ti Founders’ Edition —> 3090ti Founders’ Edition.

~35fps —> ~45fps in FBW 320 Neo at EGLL Gate 518 (4K, consistent settings).

Given the power of the 12900K over the 8086K plus the 3080Ti over the 1080Ti I would have expected a significant increase in fps. Far more than the 10 you have reported. More like 65fps.

65 FPS @ 4k  on EGLL with a complex add-on? Perhaps with the 4090Ti or when DLSS gets released. 45fps is already a respectable achievement...

The CPU does not matter much in this equation.

Edited May 7, 20224 yr by GCBraun

23 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

65 FPS @ 4k  on EGLL with a complex add-on? Perhaps with the 4090Ti or when DLSS gets released. 45fps is already a respectable achievement...

The CPU does not matter much in this equation.

There’s no mention of an addon airport or whether AIG Ai aircraft are used.

Few flight sims fail to use 100% of the CPU. But those two components are current state of the art so I’m perplexed why there’s only a 10fps increase over my current CPU / GPU which is nearly 4 years old.

PS. I don’t have MSFS so can’t run any comparative checks.

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

There’s no mention of an addon airport or whether AIG Ai aircraft are used.

Few flight sims fail to use 100% of the CPU. But those two components are current state of the art so I’m perplexed why there’s only a 10fps increase over my current CPU / GPU which is nearly 4 years old.

PS. I don’t have MSFS so can’t run any comparative checks.

Then you should get it for a buck to test...for sure it will be fun.

Anyway, I am cruising right now at 4K and MSFS is using 35% of my 12400F. Generally it does not go over 60%, even when on the ground and with AI traffic.

A 12900K would not make much difference here, just like in pretty much every AAA gaming title.

 

 

23 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

Then you should get it for a buck to test...for sure it will be fun.

From what I’ve read in this forum I doubt it.

What’s the fps inside with the VC showing? Lower I’m guessing.