6 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

Yeah....sadly we live in a world where every single machine on the planet is about as unique as each person's DNA strand. 🤪  What pegs one person's GPU makes the other's pur like a kitten being stroked on your lap. 🙂

Tweaking your system is always going to rely on your knowledge of your parts config, no way around it.  Just like painting, me trying to help another painter is tough because even if we're both on Photoshop (not always the case), our versions could be different, I have many custom keyboard shortcuts and macros, my PSD desktop will be different, etc..... I KNOW they wont have certain things setup so I can just say click CTRL+SHIFT+Q to flip your texture vertically. 

 

Oh and one tip here to make the thread not plastered with my pics for every reply....can you please delete the pic out of your replies?  thanks.

Yeh sorry I'll remember to delete the pic in future replies,I will need to do a cpu upgrade to take full advantage of the 3080 ti but am seeing some benefit to the upgrade at least

48 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

My factory overclocked 1080Ti GPUs use two 8-pin connectors, as does my 2080Ti and my 3090.  Some of the overclocked 3090s use three 8-pin connectors.  I think I remember some of the 1080Ti boards using one 8-pin and one 6-pin connector.

Thanks Bob. I haven’t opened the case since the system was bought in Nov 2018. Given Chillblast’s reputation I would imagine I’ll have the required connectors.

@iFlySimX, that's a curious site. It tells me my i7-8086K is too weak for the 3080Ti. But then it says it's a great match for the 3090. Huh? But it says the 1080Ti is a great match.

My Asus Z370-A mobo is only PCIe 3.0. I take it that won't create any problems.

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I used the link provided by Maladoror, thanks. It tells me my 1080Ti is the weaker component compared to my i7-8086K running at 5.0Ghz. I run at 3840*2160 @ 30Hz natively.

Given the age of the 1080Ti it doesn’t surprise me. I’d always been put off buying a 2000 series card because it would mean dropping to 8Gb VRAM from the 11 the 1080Ti has.

This was exactly why I skipped the 2xxx generation.

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But now that the 3080Ti has 12Gb that problem disappears. My only question is will the 3080Ti accept the same connections as the 1080Ti? The size seems okay and I have a 750W gold power supply.

Since you have one of those fancy Chillblast PC's I would think the power supply would have the necessary connectors -- although admittedly I'm not familiar with their line of PC's / the power sup's they use.  

I'll check what my 1080ti needs when I get home.  I think it's two 8-pin connectors.  I run a modular power supply.

Everyone here knows (or maybe not, heh) that my plan is to wait for the 4000-series before replacing my trusty 1080ti.

1 minute ago, Mace said:

This was exactly why I skipped the 2xxx generation.

Since you have one of those fancy Chillblast PC's I would think the power supply would have the necessary connectors -- although admittedly I'm not familiar with their line of PC's / the power sup's they use.  

I'll check what my 1080ti needs when I get home.  I think it's two 8-pin connectors.  I run a modular power supply.

Everyone here knows (or maybe not, heh) that my plan is to wait for the 4000-series before replacing my trusty 1080ti.

I ummed and aarred when I ordered this system. The 2080Ti was going to cost another 500GBP and I decided it wasn't worth the extra. The 3090 is total overkill with 24Gb of VRAM. The 3080Ti seems the sweet spot with 12Gb. Yes, I suppose the 4000 series will be faster but by how much? And how much more will they be?

Given the 2080Ti was going to cost me around 1000GBP 3.5 years ago I don't consider the 3080Ti at 1330GBP to be excessive especially under current circumstances. I'll give Chillblast a call tomorrow and check the connections issue.

My PSU is a Corsair 850W Gold. I don't scrimp on those. I remember one going bang around 25+ years ago and almost giving me a heart attack! 🤣

53 minutes ago, alexcolka said:

Still think the 1080ti is a superb card, never had problems in 2k ultra with my i9 11900k, however my next card could be the 3080ti, the prices are getting sweeter, maybe in May could drop to $1100 or 1200?

I'd agree for 2K (2560*1440) ?

But I run 3840*2160 which is 4x the number of pixels of 1920*1080 and there are times when the 1080Ti struggles.

2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I ummed and aarred when I ordered this system. The 2080Ti was going to cost another 500GBP and I decided it wasn't worth the extra. The 3090 is total overkill with 24Gb of VRAM. The 3080Ti seems the sweet spot with 12Gb. Yes, I suppose the 4000 series will be faster but by how much? And how much more will they be?

How much more will probably depend on the supply issues, but I figure the 4000 series will likely be in roughly the same price buckets we're seeing today.   Top end cards for top end $$$, middle tier cards for middle-tier money, etc.

The only problem is the waiting.

I too have been tempted to spring for a 3080ti but my 1080ti is still doing ok, and it's perfectly matched with my clocked 8700K machine.  I'd just be cpu bound if I made a move.

7 minutes ago, Mace said:

I too have been tempted to spring for a 3080ti but my 1080ti is still doing ok, and it's perfectly matched with my clocked 8700K machine.  I'd just be cpu bound if I made a move.

If you used that site to check for mismatching I’d take it with a pinch of salt. The 3080Ti wasn’t a great match for my i7-8086K but the 3090 was. Hmmm.

I know this is the MSFS forum but I’m still on P3D v5 and there are occasions when the fps struggles with heavy cloud. That is a GPU issue and the 4K res is really pushing the 1080Ti too far.

What is your 8700K clocked at? Hyperthreading?

26 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If you used that site to check for mismatching I’d take it with a pinch of salt. The 3080Ti wasn’t a great match for my i7-8086K but the 3090 was. Hmmm.

I know this is the MSFS forum but I’m still on P3D v5 and there are occasions when the fps struggles with heavy cloud. That is a GPU issue and the 4K res is really pushing the 1080Ti too far.

What is your 8700K clocked at? Hyperthreading?

My 8700K is currently at 4.9 ghz.  Hyperthreading on.   I do load applications on later cores (via batchfile) and leave Core0 free for use of the sim.  I have a batch file for P3D and another for MSFS.

I don't use any of those sites for mismatching, although they can be interesting for the giggles.  I know without needing affirmation that if I mated a 3080ti with my 8700K I would go from being GPU limited to cpu limited.   

2 minutes ago, Mace said:

I don't use any of those sites for mismatching, although they can be interesting for the giggles.  I know without needing affirmation that if I mated a 3080ti with my 8700K I would go from being GPU limited to cpu limited. 

There must be an extremely small number of CPU/GPU combos where neither is bound. As soon as you buy a faster CPU the GPU becomes the weakest link and vice versa. It’s like a dog chasing its tail.

Most flight sims are CPU bound. I see core0 hit 100% with my current setup at very large airports and lots of AIG Ai. And using the EA option in P3D does hammer my 1080Ti. Hence why I feel the 3080Ti would help with clouds and lighting.

Besides, it’s my birthday next week and I have been very frugal for a while. 😁

1 minute ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

There must be an extremely small number of CPU/GPU combos where neither is bound. As soon as you buy a faster CPU the GPU becomes the weakest link and vice versa. It’s like a dog chasing its tail.

Most flight sims are CPU bound. I see core0 hit 100% with my current setup at very large airports and lots of AIG Ai. And using the EA option in P3D does hammer my 1080Ti. Hence why I feel the 3080Ti would help with clouds and lighting.

Besides, it’s my birthday next week and I have been very frugal for a while. 😁

Well there you go.  I'd treat yourself then.  What will you do with the 1080ti card?

Doesn't it mean that one is supposed to get both new chassis and mobo to accommodate for 3090Ti bigger size? This is the thing prevents me from switchng from 2080Ti to 3090?

2 minutes ago, Mace said:

Well there you go.  I'd treat yourself then.  What will you do with the 1080ti card?

Not sure. I’d need to check second-hand prices. But if too low I might keep it as a spare.

7 hours ago, Maladoror said:

A 3080ti will bottleneck the cpu. A 2080 super would be a good match for a 9700k.

He has an 8th gen 8700K.  6 core 12 thread

If he can still get one the i9 9900K (8 core 16 thread) it should work in his motherboard and give a bit of a boost, may need a better HSF though.

AS for the 3080TI, it is actually a 3090 with less RAM, it is based on the 3090 die not the 3080 one.

 

 

Edited April 26, 20224 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

@Ray Proudfoot I think you will be very happy with a 3080Ti. I have been running a 3080Ti after upgrading from a 2080 and I run MSFS and P3D 5.3 on an ultra wide curved display at 5120x1440. Huge difference. And, at that resolution, both sims are very smooth with most graphic options up very high. Now, I also have a higher end cpu, so there is that. But, I think a 3080Ti would help out in exactly the manner in which you are thinking. My 3080Ti is an EVGA card, and it roughly the same size as my 2080. It takes two 8x2 plugs from the PSU. 

Something else to consider is that had you decided to wait for the RTX 4000 series, most of the information available right now looks like they will be drawing huge amounts of power, around 600w at the 4090 level. With that much juice comes a lot of heat too, so now you are looking at potentially upgrading your cooling solution(s). I say if you are happy getting a 3080Ti now, then get it, while they are available. And in these days, whose to say when the 4000 series are released we will be able to even get them for a while. Just more food for thought 🙂 

Edited April 26, 20224 yr by sniper31