24 minutes ago, C2615 said:

Not for a spyware....

I don't understand the spyware comment. Can you explain?

8 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

P3D. Oh man, do I need to buy a 3rd sim now????

Don't worry. FsLabs one is great, and also probably the most accurate one (I was also speaking to one Quantas pilot), but it was a stutter low fps fest on my system. I absolutely regret getting it, since I couldn't fly it at 19-25fps with a lot of stuttering. It was a mess, especially for that price. I own Toliss A319, and 320Neo, and I absolutely adore both addons, especially with KOSP soundpack (it covers all models and all engine variants, and in my ears it's the best sound package for any sim Airbus). On top of all, Toliss addons are really FPS friendly and have the best flying feel by far. I can fly it in VR at 45fps locked in all scenarios in X-Plane 11, and it's super immersive when it's all that smooth. When I fly Fenix in MSFS2020, I must lock the fps to 36, and even then I see some stuttering and frame inconsistencies, as Fenix is really REALLY CPU intensive. Also I don't enjoy hand flying it, comparing to Toliss, where I hand fly the whole SID up to 10k feet.

Edited May 14, 20251 yr by Pe11e

8 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

P3D. Oh man, do I need to buy a 3rd sim now????

FS Labs A320 is also available for MSFS now.

Fenix had such a long head start that it doesn't get much attention. Reviews are solid.

Given Toliss' pricing structure, I would likely only buy one of the variants (at least to start). Is there one variant that stand out from the rest (feature-wise or state of completeness)? I'm leaning towards the A320Neo as a first taste.

Edited May 14, 20251 yr by Malaromane

24 minutes ago, Malaromane said:

Given Toliss' pricing structure, I would likely only buy one of the variants (at least to start). Is there one variant that stand out from the rest (feature-wise or state of completeness)? I'm leaning towards the A320Neo as a first taste.

for me it would be the 320neo

I would rather suggest the A321, because later on you can add the neo-version covering all types (XL, XLR included) and all engines variants. So at the end its the most complete one (out of all) and you will notice many different options and features like the dual-cooling function etc.

Thanks to you both @jcomm and @Franz007 for your perspectives.

3 hours ago, Malaromane said:

Given Toliss' pricing structure, I would likely only buy one of the variants (at least to start). Is there one variant that stand out from the rest (feature-wise or state of completeness)? I'm leaning towards the A320Neo as a first taste.

A. I would wait for the next sale (as always!)

B. At one point, V1 Simulations (IRL Airbus ATP) rated the Toliss A319 as the best of the Toliss Airbuses.

C. I'm NOT an Airbus guy, he may have since changed his opinion, and I stand to be corrected.

14 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

I don't understand the spyware comment. Can you explain?

FSL used to put spyware in their add-on, claim to track a cracker, not all people tolerant that, some get rid of FSL all together.

Tbh I'm kinda fine, I still have their A320/319 on my system, but not really fly it much since I have Toliss, the only reason is A320ceo not provide by Toliss.

6 hours ago, Malaromane said:

Given Toliss' pricing structure, I would likely only buy one of the variants (at least to start). Is there one variant that stand out from the rest (feature-wise or state of completeness)? I'm leaning towards the A320Neo as a first taste.

currently A330neo have the best equipment, like HUD, DRAIMS....which may or may not trickle down to other models (most likely only for neos)

Another vote for the A321 because it has a freighter mod: https://forums.x-plane.org/files/file/92976-easy-freighter-conversion-kit-for-the-toliss-321/

Wasn't even aware there was such a variant IRL!

I purchased the A321. There are a dearth of liveries for the Toliss A321XLR. Quite surprising. Also surprised that Toliss doesn't give you any liveries.

12 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

I purchased the A321. There are a dearth of liveries for the Toliss A321XLR. Quite surprising. Also surprised that Toliss doesn't give you any liveries.

But man oh man does it fly well!!! What a plane.

So I did download free liveries for the Tolis Airbus. I got United, Lufthansa. Air Canada and British Airways. 2 North American carriers and 2 European. The challenge to learn new tips and tricks of a different sim's ecosystem is gratifying. MSFS for sure helped with that.

4 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

But man oh man does it fly well!!! What a plane.

It does fly well and with Tolisis getting the recognition by Airbus and a training facility is a testament to handwork they put into the their aircraft in improving the flight experiences that can be seen by the reaction of its user. You are in good hands with this aircraft.