51 minutes ago, micstatic said:

Yeah I think if somehow Microsoft decided to totally pull the plug on 2020 and 2024, most of the hardcore sim type would move to xplane not p3dv6.  

I think I'd more likely finally decide to find another hobby

9 hours ago, Noel said:

Just curious, do you continue to have CTD when you don't dabble in the latest SU beta, and just run default planes and keep things fairly simple?  I ask because I'm not having any CTD and have maybe 65 flights now under my belt.  But I only have maybe 12 3rd party airports from 2020 I enabled.  I use 2024 with Self Loading Cargo, BATC, APL and don't seem to have any  stability issues whatsoever.

I rarely get a CTD except in the betas. I have nothing in my community folder and don’t even have navigraph installed. 

5 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I think I'd more likely finally decide to find another hobby

Why so, did you even give them a try?

I bought 2024 last night.  Loaded up a flight in VR and was greeted by a large black box in the middle of the screen.  After hitting escape and resume got rid of it.  Ok great.  Let’s press the controller button that brings up the toolbar.  What?  I’m now looking at some strange grid menu with buttons I can’t even click.  What is this pop up even for?  My goodness who thought this was even remotely acceptable.  Back to 2020 and XP12 for now.  

8 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Why so, did you even give them a try?

🤣 I have all the sims! I'm probably one of (maybe) a handful on the Forum who still has FSX, FLIGHT, and Dovetail sim installed and active, not to mention Aerofly and others.

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by HiFlyer

9 hours ago, Cognita said:

At the last Expo, the marketplace update session had graphs that showed Steam has the lowest number of users of 2020, far below PC and X-box, in fact at times even mobile had more, so I am not sure it makes sense to conclude too much from Steam data.

That said, the introduction of 2024 was atrocious. No need to rehash all the difficulties here but even the Marketplace did not come online until March, four months after release! Some of the changes I just cannot comprehend, the UI is not particularly pleasant and the control assignments are terrible!  So, it is really quite understandable that many decided to wait, others tried it quite reasonably and went back to 2020. I agree with what most have said here that as the sim gets some more updates and 3rd party content becomes available that 2024 will grow. There are a lot of positives with 2024, but it needed proper beta testing, not just for bugs but for functionality. 

I was messing around with XP12 and configured my controls. So easy and intuitive. Only someone with no experience at all in flight sims could have come up with FS24’s control assignment design. But then as i play around with XP12 it becomes clear that the people creating it are very experienced. With FS24 (and FS20) a lot of non simmers clearly are working on the project. But the vast difference in resources is clear in many areas. It’s David vs Goliath. 

1 hour ago, micstatic said:

Yeah I think if somehow Microsoft decided to totally pull the plug on 2020 and 2024, most of the hardcore sim type would move to xplane not p3dv6.  

We would have no other choice but to move to Xplane.

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by B777ER

Just now, B777ER said:

We would have no other choice.

nah rather go to dcs

4 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

nah rather go to dcs

Or Falcon BMS. Later this year we get new scenery. Should be a game changer. 

6 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

nah rather go to dcs

DCS is a combat sim. 

15 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I was messing around with XP12 and configured my controls. So easy and intuitive. Only someone with no experience at all in flight sims could have come up with FS24’s control assignment design. But then as i play around with XP12 it becomes clear that the people creating it are very experienced. With FS24 (and FS20) a lot of non simmers clearly are working on the project. But the vast difference in resources is clear in many areas. It’s David vs Goliath. 

While I totally agree with you about disliking the control scheme for FS2024, I consider it a moot point since it can be totally bypassed with spad.next.  I realize it's a steep learning curve for most.  But with extensive home cockpit hardware it's a must. 

6 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

DCS is a combat sim. 

And not a realistic one at that. Military arsenal is confidential.

I don't care much about the numbers, I love 2024, it works flawlessly in my pc, and that's all I care about.

In fact, the more players on 2020 and less on 2024, just leaves more server resources for myself...LOL🤣

 

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by CarlosF

Just now, CarlosF said:

I could care less

You mean couldn’t? 

17 minutes ago, Gilandred said:

I bought 2024 last night.  Loaded up a flight in VR and was greeted by a large black box in the middle of the screen.  After hitting escape and resume got rid of it.  Ok great.  Let’s press the controller button that brings up the toolbar.  What?  I’m now looking at some strange grid menu with buttons I can’t even click.  What is this pop up even for?  My goodness who thought this was even remotely acceptable.  Back to 2020 and XP12 for now.  

They (Msobo) should be cleaned out, to make way for new managers that put simmers first.