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Where to get the "Bing" version of Google Maps Enhancement?

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Yes it would be nice to know which maps are the best in which area e.g. Middle/Southern Europe, USA, South America, China etc.

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  • Noel, Sorry for responding late, here are the three important things that are easy to do. You can use photogrammetry off or on. When you use this software always start it before MSFS and lea

  • planechaser
    planechaser

    Just tried this mod for the first time  Using new Bing maps and high LOD Tried it out and seems like i have maybe have stumbled into the MSFS 2024 beta.. Flew over the Canadian Rockies

  • St Mawgan
    St Mawgan

    Bing Latest is pretty amazing and much better than Google Maps. It does feel like an MS2024 preview. 

13 minutes ago, AnkH said:

And how you know that before flying? This is my biggest culprit for this tool, if I am planning my flights, I have no idea what source gives the best results. Is it Google? Is it Bing latest? Is it Apple? Who knows. I then select one and bad luck, the wrong one and the flight is a disappointment. Sure, for the next flight in the same area, I do know it, but for me, flying all over the world is the fun part of the sim and as such, I do not a lot of flights more than one time. 

Anyway, the possibility of reducing the brightness alone resulted in the fact that I never fly without this tool anymore and I am fine with the risk of having ground textures looking worse than MSFS default. At least, if they look bad with baked in clouds etc, they are not cartoonish green or bright 😉 

Firstly I'm in the same boat (plane!) as you regarding which to use, purely because I never really have an idea of where to fly until I'm loaded into the world map. So in essence if I fly in some random remote area of the globe, does it really matter if I have upto date terrain images? I'm not gonna know the difference either way. 

But then secondly, as you say the Brightness setting is a godsend, so for me it would be cool if this app could also show default terrain as that it is crying out for this setting.

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1 hour ago, MarcG said:

So in essence if I fly in some random remote area of the globe, does it really matter if I have upto date terrain images? I'm not gonna know the difference either way.

That’s a good point. I think however that the mod can (hopefully) help with poor quality of terrain textures, which in various places is pretty obvious. E.g. I’ve done a lot of flights in Nepal, Tibet and Bhutan, where textures are generally of poor quality.

But even in Europe, textures seems significantly better with latest Bing maps.

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Just took off from Rotterdam to Rome.

I used Latest Bing. Between Rotterdam and The Hague I could see some color differences.

Where there is no color difference Latest Bing High Lod is superior, but I also saw some color differences flying over Belgium and Germany.

So I disabled the mod and am flying now with default Bing and while it maybe less up to date, the overal view matches better…

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I could be wrong here but I suspect there is a filter applied to the default ground textures to assist with continuity of colours but one of the caveats are the green roads. As much as I appreciate the extra details with the newer maps, the improved roads is my main reason for using it - I find they ruin the immersion otherwise.

Mod has been rock solid for me too to be fair.

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On 6/7/2024 at 3:08 AM, MarcG said:

But then secondly, as you say the Brightness setting is a godsend, so for me it would be cool if this app could also show default terrain as that it is crying out for this setting.

Have you tried using GFE's 'Detail' filter along with NCP's desktop color settings delivers great control and outcome on sharp/detail/color/etc and of course works with or without the map mod.

Noel

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On 6/7/2024 at 8:43 AM, Donka said:

Mod has been rock solid for me too to be fair.

After a series of issues w/ the mod turns out all of my problems with it must have been 'server side' as all of a sudden it's totally fine now including load times, CTD's etc.

Noel

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35 minutes ago, Noel said:

Have you tried using GFE's 'Detail' filter along with NCP's desktop color settings delivers great control and outcome on sharp/detail/color/etc and of course works with or without the map mod.

nope because I use VR so none of that works, besides the whole image is fine it's the terrain that needs brightness changing only.

In the meantime I've had to give up with this mod, whilst it's very good the FPS loss when looking around is too much, upto 15fps when in VR is way too much to lose, causes stuttering even with High LODs unticked. Default only* causes a loss of 5-6fps doing the same thing so it's not as noticeable, been using the apps Cache but that doesn't make much/if any difference.

*this is worse since SU14, part of the performance loss issues that Asobo were made aware of but of course subsequently ignored.

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11 minutes ago, MarcG said:

nope because I use VR so none of that works

That's too bad but I guess for you VR is worth the issues surrounding it in MSFS.  I also find a performance penalty for the map mod but it's not so bad I can't use it, and I don't use FG.

Noel

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8 minutes ago, Noel said:

That's too bad but I guess for you VR is worth the issues surrounding it in MSFS.  I also find a performance penalty for the map mod but it's not so bad I can't use it, and I don't use FG.

It's not like I cant use the map mod, but as I fly VFR looking at the pretty scenery I'm therefore always looking out the windows and quite often using the Drone Came to buzz about, so when the FPS drops as drastically as it can do with this mod it becomes very noticeable. If I were to be an airliner flying at 30k feet then yeah it probably wouldn't be as noticeable, but that's not my thing 🙂

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On 5/31/2024 at 11:55 PM, Mets737 said:

I heard that you lose all the msfs grass in airport sceneries with this mod, is that confirmed?

 The mod will bring us better grass. New grass for old!

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BEST Maps provider for Alaska and British Columbia?

19 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

BEST Maps provider for Alaska and British Columbia?

Just try them. Choose a map inside the mod and slew your plane up to 20000 ft and go to Top down view.

Then empty the mods cache, choose another map, go to normal view and slew 50 mls to a direction. Go to Top down view and see how it looks.

This you can repeat for all maps.

 

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Any tips to improve performance?  I'm using the High LOD setting and it looks very good but the impact is around 15% +/-. over MSFS default.  And it's one of those things where I have beau coup main thread and GPU headroom and yet the native rate drop to 39-41fps at KDEN just now.   I did the same flight, same time of day, gate etc and we were at 47-53fps at the gate after pushback.  I think it's going to be worth the hit but because I don't use DLSS FG as I'm happy to keep native rate locked at 45fps I'm hoping there might be some settings to help mitigate performance impact with this Bing Latest mod.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

On 6/9/2024 at 1:19 AM, Aglos77 said:

BEST Maps provider for Alaska and British Columbia?

ARCGIS is pretty good in both.  Not too many burned-in clouds. 

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