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Hello,

I’ve mainly been flying the Fenix with the ThrustMaster Airbus hardware, but over the last few days I’ve started to play around with the PMDG 737. I’m using the Logitech yoke & throttle and finding it a bit hard to control. I’ve flown the PA28 with it too and it pitches up/down quite drastically.

Is this the quality of the yoke or something I could solve in the settings/sensitivity? 

Would I notice an improvement with the Boeing ThrustMaster yoke? FWIW, I’m very happy with their Airbus offering.

Many thanks!

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12 hours ago, mikethe6th said:

Hello,

I’ve mainly been flying the Fenix with the ThrustMaster Airbus hardware, but over the last few days I’ve started to play around with the PMDG 737. I’m using the Logitech yoke & throttle and finding it a bit hard to control. I’ve flown the PA28 with it too and it pitches up/down quite drastically.

Is this the quality of the yoke or something I could solve in the settings/sensitivity? 

Would I notice an improvement with the Boeing ThrustMaster yoke? FWIW, I’m very happy with their Airbus offering.

Many thanks!

The Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke is amazing and would be a huge improvement over the Logitech.

Are you looking for an excuse to spend money?

There are plenty of youtube videos about adjusting sensitivity and dead zone settings on the Logitech yoke (I'm assuming you're talking about the cheap Logitech Saitek combo?)

Go for the Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, got myself one from Amazon (still on offer), it is the best yoke I ever had.

 

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7 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Are you looking for an excuse to spend money?

There are plenty of youtube videos about adjusting sensitivity and dead zone settings on the Logitech yoke (I'm assuming you're talking about the cheap Logitech Saitek combo?)

Yeah, that’s the one I’m talking about. 

I spent some time yesterday watching YouTube’s and adjusting the settings, but I’m still finding it quite tricky. I just feel like I’m constantly having to fight the thing. 

I’d prefer not to spend £320, but I would be happy if it made flying the 737 or PA28 feel a bit more realistic.

I’m always a bit sceptical about Black Friday pricing but I’m gathering £320 for the combo is a good price? 
 

 

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@mikethe6th, having had a Logitech yoke for many years I never realised how dreadful it was until I used it on a friend’s PC after having a Fulcrum One Yoke. This is a seriously good yoke that has support on AvSim.

Take a look here. Yes, it’s more expensive that others but far cheaper than the Yoko.

https://fulcrumsim.com/product/fulcrum-yoke/

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You can't beat the TM Boeing Edition Yoke and even the TQ is the right fit for me.  The yoke has magnetic sensors just like the expensive Fulcrum/Yoko yokes do and is very high resolution, and have the full axis throws as those as well for a fraction of the cost.  It is well endowed with buttons and axes, full metal internals and even sports adjustment in elevator resistance.  Plus, I just love the pendulum engineering.  If you like to mount a keyboard on top you simply remove the tablet stop and bend it a bit and reinsert and you end up with something like this.  Clearly because the yoke protrudes down low it really is better adapted to curved desks like mine

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I'll put in another vote for the TM Boeing yoke...probably the best hardware purchase I have made...

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31 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@mikethe6th, having had a Logitech yoke for many years I never realised how dreadful it was until I used it on a friend’s PC after having a Fulcrum One Yoke. This is a seriously good yoke that has support on AvSim.

Take a look here. Yes, it’s more expensive that others but far cheaper than the Yoko.

https://fulcrumsim.com/product/fulcrum-yoke/

The Logitech yoke isn't "dreadful" at all once you adjust dead zone and sensitivity. The Fulcrum costs 3 times more. 

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8 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

The Logitech yoke isn't "dreadful" at all once you adjust dead zone and sensitivity. The Fulcrum costs 3 times more. 

Seriously, it is. You can adjust dead zones and sensitivity all you like but once the pots start to wear out as they inevitably will it’s absolutely useless. Logitech don’t sell replacement pots deliberately. It has just 3.5” of full travel compared to 8” on the Fulcrum. That allows for very fine adjustments when landing.

The Fulcrum costs more but with Hall-Effect sensors it will last for a very long time. Buy quality, buy once.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum TQ (pre-production).

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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24 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

The Fulcrum costs more but with Hall-Effect sensors it will last for a very long time. Buy quality, buy once.

TQ Boeing and Airbus editions also will last a very long time as well w/ their all-metal internals w/ magnetic high resolution sensors but the cost today for the Boeing Edition:  $285 

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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27 minutes ago, Noel said:

TQ Boeing and Airbus editions also will last a very long time as well w/ their all-metal internals w/ magnetic high resolution sensors but the cost today for the Boeing Edition:  $285 

You’re talking about throttle quadrants. I’m referring to a yoke. You can’t put the Fulcrum and Yoko in the same “expensive” class given the Yoko is double the price.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum TQ (pre-production).

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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