FS Labs, ehh? no need for them in MSFS. Doubt many would pay 150 for every addon they will charge anyways. Bring on Fenix and the PMDG 738. Already enjoying the Maddog X

12 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Thank you for providing the best explanation I’ve read of MSFS weather and how it works. 👏

Given it will never be possible to have historical weather without major changes I’ll stick to P3D for my serious flights and use MSFS for pottering around.

No, historical weather in MSFS is possible with compromises.  Like @JRBarrett said, storing all that data, and storing many years worth of it, is not feasible.

But compromises can be made, such as only storing 7 days worth of data, taking smaller areas of data and averaging it into a larger area, etc, to save on space.  Interpolation can also be used between two points of data to save space (ie. if it's 30 degrees at noon and 24 degrees by 5 PM, you can interpolate that at roughly 2:30 PM, it's approximately 27 degrees, so there is no need to store data for 2:30 PM).

As someone coming from a software development background myself, I don't see any technical reasons why historical weather is not possible, if certain compromises are made.

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5 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

As someone coming from a software development background myself, I don't see any technical reasons why historical weather is not possible, if certain compromises are made.

Thanks. I imagine it would be a subscription option. But first enough votes are needed so the number of those will be interesting.

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

Thanks. I imagine it would be a subscription option. But first enough votes are needed so the number of those will be interesting.

Yes.  The issue is probably the votes needed to get their attention, and also any legal hurdles with storing/using Metoblue and Metar data.  Technically, I'm sure Microsoft/Asobo can figure out ways to make historical weather work, with compromises of course.

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But if you locate to the other side of the world to where you live and then switch to daytime you’re getting nighttime weather for your daytime flight. Temps will be way out and winds too. Isn’t that important to you?

Nope isn't, when i fly let's say in Australia, i always choose current real time. 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

And with that a lot of speculation and assumptions have been laid to rest including the assumption the FSL Concorde would "never" come to MSFS... 

I've always said, companies will follow the money.  I think this is why more and more 3rd party developers are switching to MSFS, or at least shifting their resources to MSFS.

One company to keep an eye on is iniBuilds.  If you go to the iniBuilds website and their forums, they have been announcing new MSFS products, after MSFS product, albeit, scenery add-ons for MSFS.  I think iniBuilds is starting to focus more on MSFS, and I surmise their sales for MSFS is quite good at the moment.  This has ramifications on their line of aircraft.  After the A310 for iniBuilds releases on MSFS, if the sales for it are half decent, I can see iniBuilds porting their other planes over to MSFS.

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8 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Yes.  The issue is probably the votes needed to get their attention, and also any legal hurdles with storing/using Metoblue and Metar data.  Technically, I'm sure Microsoft/Asobo can figure out ways to make historical weather work, with compromises of course.

Nothing is impossible if there’s enough will to accomplish it. But it’s dependent on enough users deciding it’s important to them.

6 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Nope isn't, when i fly let's say in Australia, i always choose current real time. 

Let’s put some flesh on that statement. Let’s assume it’s 09:00Z, 11:00 CET when you plan to start your flight from Sydney. The current time there is Zulu+10 so 19:00 local. That’s after dark down under at this time of year so irrespective of the time you set in MSFS that’s the weather you’re going to get.

So if you set the time in the sim to 11:00 local which matches your own time you’re getting the nighttime weather for your daytime flight.

That doesn’t sound very realistic to me.

15 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Nothing is impossible if there’s enough will to accomplish it. But it’s dependent on enough users deciding it’s important to them.

Let’s put some flesh on that statement. Let’s assume it’s 09:00Z, 11:00 CET when you plan to start your flight from Sydney. The current time there is Zulu+10 so 19:00 local. That’s after dark down under at this time of year so irrespective of the time you set in MSFS that’s the weather you’re going to get.

So if you set the time in the sim to 11:00 local which matches your own time you’re getting the nighttime weather for your daytime flight.

That doesn’t sound very realistic to me.

But this will always be the case unless you sync sim time to local (as in departure location) time. Historical or any other type of weather won't save you here

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A real head scratcher for sure.  So much we could say.  Not sure why they don't just make the move to MSFS...totally, and upgrade the 320 family's avionics...especially since they have grown.  Seems like they have an opportunity to make a leap here but are choosing not to.

The only thing that would be keeping people of the older sims are the wide bodies at this point and the concorde.  Very strange.

3 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

But this will always be the case unless you sync sim time to local (as in departure location) time. Historical or any other type of weather won't save you here

Using Active Sky for P3D I can download the weather for any hour for the last few weeks. So the weather in that sim matches that from AS.

That isn’t possible with “real-time” only weather. That’s the downside.

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

The most exciting thing in that announcement to me is the A330 so we’ll eventually have an option other than Aerosoft.  Knowing FSL’s typically glacial development time though we probably won’t have to worry about anything being released in MSFS for quite some time.

If Fenix lives up to the hype then FSL may as well skip the A320 series and jump ahead to A330.

Fenix could also announce widebodies in the future.

9 minutes ago, Ilari Kousa said:

Fenix could also announce widebodies in the future.

One thing about Fenix announcing a wide body airbus though, is that I don't know if they have the base code/engine for that. For the A320, I think ProSim is a huge part of their base code/engine, and saved Fenix a lot of time in developing the Fenix A320. I'm sure some of the Fenix A320 code would be ported or used in any wide body Airbus Fenix announces. But can Fenix still use Prosim for a wide bodied Airbus?

This is why I think Fenix will work on the A319 or A321 after they release the A320.  They can still reuse much of their A320 code, including ProSim (if I understand the capabilities of ProSim), for the A319 and A321.  For a wide bodied Airbus, I'm not so sure what Fenix can use, to save them time in development.

Edited May 12, 20224 yr by abrams_tank

That was really more of a non-announcement. I did not feel any more clear about their intentions after I read it than from what I had already gathered. The only thing I took away is that it seems they are still struggling to understand MSFS and feel limited by the SKD.

5 hours ago, Zangoose said:

Probably going to be quite a wait for any MSFS releases if they do actually happen - Seeing as all of these products will be coming out for P3D first anyway.

No going back to P3D for me,My eyes bleed severely,on the graphics......

2 hours ago, lefteris said:

Someone brought this forum post to my attention - I am surprised to read this, as our development team has grown, rather than shrunk, as I mentioned in our announcement - you can read it here.

Alright, I read "new people" as in a replacement for others that left, because that's what I heard - but anyway thanks for the clarification.