Most of the FS20 light aircraft have a glass cockpit. We can expect hot discussions around this. Actually we already had some. Fellow simmers missing the old steam gauges.

I have been a long time in the later camp but using my old F1 GTN 750 for five years now, I came to appreciate more and more its precious help to navigate in the boonies, specially in mountainous terrain. And having an all-in-one glass cockpit in a Cub doesn't seem as blasphemous 😉 as it used to be. 

Trent Palmer has recently released a video on this. I hope you'll enjoy it as I did. We are full in FS20 world, aren't we ?

@Asobo :  I'll tell you guys, I'd love to be able to open your Garmin on my Ipad as a secondary screen ! Do it ! 

 

 

PS : Palmer is sponsored by Garmin. I know. That takes nothing from the basic demonstration. Glass cockpit is the way to go when flying the bush.

Edited August 5, 20205 yr by Ray Proudfoot
Original topic title reinstated.

I think is time for evolution. Even the Cub isn't just "the Cub" anymore thinking of the Carbon Cub and whatnot. Why not go with time and add some more extra safety to bushflying. I mean in real life the times of plotting charts with your finger are over. I'd prefer a glasscockpit anytime over those old steamgauges.

But that is (as so many other things) a question of taste. I have always been someone who's open for new technology and it helped me alot flying in real life too.

Just my two cents.

Best regards

I am rather fond of analog gauges too, but I like navigation by GPS.  In my perfect sim world, we would have digital instruments where appropriate and analog in old aircraft, but with the option of a GPS and modern radios in the virtual cockpit of old aircraft to simulate a modern restoration/operation.

The savage cub in the game is analog, but once you go glass in real life, you don’t pine to go back.

If I had a bush plane instead of a 182, it’d be all glass. Many bush planes qualify as experimental and it’s so much cheaper to do a panel. 

 

Missionary bush pilot finds it handy.. especially since there is lots of terrain and often clouds but spotty if any radar coverage

20 minutes ago, bonchie said:

The savage cub in the game is analog, but once you go glass in real life, you don’t pine to go back.

If I had a bush plane instead of a 182, it’d be all glass. Many bush planes qualify as experimental and it’s so much cheaper to do a panel. 

for weight as well, many experimental and sport aircraft use glass cockpit guages to keep weight down as well
in the sim i would guess its for ease and multiple use, more than anything - big example is the xCub they simply left out the analog guages it has in RL
i personally hate glass guages so i noticed that also i have seen one in rl at my local airport

There are of course a lot of plus points to having a big PFD, but a disadvantage is that all your eggs are in one basket instrument-wise, so if that screen dies, you're in trouble. On an airliner with PFDs, you've got a ton of the things, up to six on a modern airliner, which often draw from multiple sources too, and they also retain battery-powered standby instrumentation too for critical gauges such as the artificial horizon. So there are plenty of options if a screen dies on an airliner, less so on a GA with only one screen. 

A more immediate issue with a digital PFD (unless it can display a replication of round dials), is the way it displays stuff. To take in the information from a digital speed tape, you actually have to look at it and comprehend the number it is displaying, whereas with a traditional clock-style instrument, you can still see what speed it is reading with your peripheral vision by simply being aware of the indicator needle's clock position. I have found this useful many times when I've been flying in real life when I wanted to 'keep my eyes on the road' so to speak; it's very easy to comprehend a target airspeed with your peripheral vision on an analogue gauge by just being aware of the needle's clock position whilst still being 'heads up' and in bush flying, situational awareness is important.

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by Chock

18 minutes ago, Wewk584 said:

Missionary bush pilot finds it handy.. especially since there is lots of terrain and often clouds but spotty if any radar coverage

One of my favorite YT channels these days. Wonderful videos for someone addicted to the Orbx PNG sceneries. Same on the Susi Air PC6. It shows that bush professionals do use extensively glass now. 

People need to wake up and realize that the time of analogue gauges is drawing to a quick close.

 

6 minutes ago, Farlis said:

People need to wake up and realize that the time of analogue gauges is drawing to a quick close.

 

for commercial flight that is true, it gives more data and is cheaper/lighter to produce so for certain coperate entities will push them as great
if you go to real bush country Most pilots use analog because you can read them much better at first glance - i doubt that will change any time soon

sure some bush pilots use and like them, but most still want at least a secondary thats analog

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by AirWayMan

34 minutes ago, Farlis said:

People need to wake up and realize that the time of analogue gauges is drawing to a quick close.

 

As @Chock has said, a screen fault and you are scr*wed.  

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by aleex

1 hour ago, AirWayMan said:

for weight as well, many experimental and sport aircraft use glass cockpit guages to keep weight down as well
in the sim i would guess its for ease and multiple use, more than anything - big example is the xCub they simply left out the analog guages it has in RL
i personally hate glass guages so i noticed that also i have seen one in rl at my local airport

The Xcub is experimental, so it doesn’t have any set panel in real life. It has what the owner wants it to have.

Lots of people are using the G3X and Dynon systems now with nothing analog.

Your picture is a very basic VFR panel. 

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by bonchie

32 minutes ago, aleex said:

As @Chock has said, a screen fault and you are scr*wed.  

Not how it works in real life. Any IFR certified plane has backups. The G1000 is a dual backup system.

Dual G5s back up each other and have batteries. Dual G3Xs backup each other. Same for every other glass system.

And glass is far more reliable than analog. You know how many busted gyro driven instruments and messed up pitot driven instruments I’ve experienced in flight? A lot. 

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by bonchie

I‘m happy to get the analog C172, especially considering how gorgeous the analog gauges look in the sim. While I appreciate the glass I still think the analog panels in many of the older planes made them somewhat unique. That’s the only thing I dislike, all the fancy Garmin panels look more or less the same (yes, I do see the immediate benefit of that, but still).

26 minutes ago, bonchie said:

The Xcub is experimental, so it doesn’t have any set panel in real life. It has what the owner wants it to have.

Lots of people are using the G3X and Dynon systems now with nothing analog.

Your picture is a very basic VFR panel. 

its also the default guages for the xCub, sure you can add upgrade options as with any aircraft, but thats what they sell as default, that pic is straight form CubCrafters
basic is usually what bush pilots want and go for, there are many that do like and use panels - nothing wrong with that - now a days people tend to 'bush fly' more for sport than in the past
bush flying by nature is "basic VFR"

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by AirWayMan