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Has iniBuilds abandoned cabins on the A350?

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First iniBuilds wanted to charge for the cabins, then they didn't.

I've just gone back to the A350 after a long time away...installed the recent update, and when I went into the flight deck...it wasn't there.

A bit of googling and I discover the new updates don't work with the cabin packs...have they abandoned them...?

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They will no longer make custom cabins that match each livery and operator (not just the livery, the types of seats, placement of galleys, that kind of thing - a 3D model). Instead, they have a standard cabin that gets whatever livery.

It should work without the cabin packs. 

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I was just considering picking up the A350 while it’s on sale. So you can no longer use the free Cabin packs they released? It looks like they removed them from there store too. Too bad, I actually found them to be a compelling feature.

Edited by Gulf76

2 hours ago, BWBriscoe said:

have they abandoned them...?

Yes, they announced this last week when 1.1.7 came out.

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As part of our commitment to consistently improve performance across all iniBuilds aircraft, we have made the strategic decision to sunset the A350 cabin packs from v1.1.7 onward. Doing so allows our teams to focus entirely on optimising the core product experience rather than maintaining multiple cabin variants.

HUES however has made their own patch to make them work again. Except for the Air France one, because the default A350 Cabin is already based on the Air France layout.

https://flightsim.to/file/100679/ini-cabins-compatibility-mod

Edited by Tuskin38

12 hours ago, BWBriscoe said:

have they abandoned them...?

Yes.

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The iniBuilds advert on FSElite shows different cabins. Laughable

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3 hours ago, BWBriscoe said:

The iniBuilds advert on FSElite shows different cabins. Laughable

They're not gonna go back and fix it lol. They're checked out, site has been in maintenance mode with minimal content and paid product promotions all year.

I was thinking about picking this up, but it’s a hard pass for me now. Ridiculous to release something then remove it and not support it. Probably will never purchase an Inibuilds plane after this behavior. I don’t trust them!

Edited by Gulf76

15 minutes ago, Gulf76 said:

Probably will never purchase an Inibuilds plane after this behavior. I don’t trust them!

If they are losing money and dev time trying to keep the customer cabins, then it makes sense to drop them. Yes, some customers will not buy ( there are devs I totally ignore as well) but Ini believes that this is the better way forward for them. 
 

I guess we’ll find out - if the cabins are that important for sales, presumably we will see them bring it back as customers stay away. Or else they won’t and we know that most people don’t care. Time will tell. 

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37 minutes ago, Gulf76 said:

Ridiculous to release something then remove it and not support it.

When they released the cabin packs, they were not free. There was a big word not allowed storm from many people how iniBuilds dares to take money, so they removed the price and gave them out for free.

At the same time they said something like they won't do something like this again. They have development / 3D modeling costs to create these packs but their customers don't want to pay for it, so they probably won't develop something like this again.

And exactly this happened here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of iniBuilds, but this totally makes sense. These cabin packs just cost money and time to develop, even if it's "only" some 3D modeling. People complained about ini creating these cabin packs, now they complain ini won't do no cabin packs anymore (which was totally expected after the outrage).

Guess you only can do wrong as developer and never right.

Edited by roesti

1 hour ago, roesti said:

And exactly this happened here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of iniBuilds, but this totally makes sense. These cabin packs just cost money and time to develop, even if it's "only" some 3D modeling. People complained about ini creating these cabin packs, now they complain ini won't do no cabin packs anymore (which was totally expected after the outrage).

Let us not forget that they release one of the most expensive Aircraft add ons that by no means justified it's high price with anything comparable.

System depth, stability, accuracy of simulation were and still are wanting.

In that regard they should never have tried to sell the cabin packs and instead should them have given out for free from the start as an added value to an aircraft that otherwise does not meet the expectations of its price.

59 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Let us not forget that they release one of the most expensive Aircraft add ons that by no means justified it's high price with anything comparable.

No worries, I don't forget that. The price was way too high and looking back, I had regrets buying it. It is still not perfect, but today the plane is okay after several patches. I already wrote that I'm not the biggest fan of iniBuilds.

But talking about the cabin packs, I have to disagree. If they "should have" included them is a question only the developer can answer, I think they don't.

They did charge 5 bucks for it, people were angry. They then gave them out for free, that's all they could do at this point (so they listened to the feedback). But it was absolutely clear that this was also the end of these cabin packs.

iniBuilds obviously realized:

- the community doesn't accept paid cabin packs
- there are too few people willing to pay for these "addons to addons", so the man hours to develop these packs are not justified, because there is no revenue

So it's absolutely no surprise these packs are gone.

In my opinion, nobody is entitled to get anything for free. Everybody can vote with his wallet, that's what I do. After the A350, I won't easily buy iniBuilds planes, because I realized they may not meet my expectations.

But these cabin packs were never promised as features or "free upgrades" in the original offer, so complaining about it makes no sense in my opinion, especially after the large outcry offering them in the first place. Nobody should buy a plane and complain about missing features afterwards that the developer never promised.

I think this example showed us the economics of these cabin packs just don't work out from iniBuilds perspective. And given that I don't know many developers that offer similar "cabin packs", I think it's fair to say they it's not an expected "base feature" of any aircraft. They are fluff, because the plane contains a good "free" cabin, just not every single variant of several operators.

Also: Free cabin packs don't make up for missing accuracy in system depth, stability, etc - like you said. And in my opinion, they should rather focus on improving stuff which was promised but was / is broken (and they're doing that, or at least try with every update) instead of "gifting" me a cabin pack which I don't care about.

Edited by roesti

3 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

but it’s a hard pass for me now.

That's very silly. The cabin packs were a completely optional, and free (after blacklash) addon.

If they were still a paid addon and they abandoned them I would agree with you.

  

 

Edited by Tuskin38

4 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

That's very silly. The cabin packs were a completely optional, and free (after blacklash) addon.

If they were still a paid addon and they abandoned them I would agree with you.

  

 

I really don’t care if you think it is silly. The packs were a feature I was interested in. They were promoting it just a few months ago while people were buying the A350. Once Ini did that it de facto became a feature of the A350 to new buyers. To promote and include this feature then remove it post sale is deceptive, regardless of their rationale. They should have never made the packs free and just refunded customers who purchased them their money. But instead they promoted them as free and an additional reason to purchase the A350. 

Edited by Gulf76

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