3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Well, you talked me into it. I am installing W 11 as I type this post. Fingers crossed, that it works.  I also purchased  StartAllBack which I will install, because I hate the start menu  W11 Gui. 

 

PS, took about 40 minutes, PC started up, and everything is working great. I installed StartAllBack and the GUI and start menu appears the same as I had on windows 10...  😀

Good luck Bob! 

Just noticed the update, glad to see everything installed okay. 

5 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Good luck Bob! 

Just noticed the update, glad to see everything installed okay. 

I noticed that moving around menus, everything is much snappier than it was with W 10.  That StartAllback program made a huge difference. It looks just like what I had in Windows 10.  I am going to get that for the W11 PC at work. Well worth the $5 price. 

22 hours ago, verbal said:

I went from 10 to 11 a year or so ago, my CPU temps went nuts (averaging 92 before even starting any program much less flight sim) and despite asking everywhere (probably except here lol) I couldn't get a definitive fix to bring temps back down, except to downgrade back to Windows 10 which is what I've run ever since. 

If anyone knows how I can get my temps down and keep them down within reason I would gladly move on up back to Windows 11. 

Hi,

Just finished all my 3D Mark and Cinebench testing and I find that Windows 11 is a bit slower than Windows 10 looking at the test results, "not by much" but the results are lower. With that said, XP12 and MS2020 are performing better in Win 11 than in Win10 with both base platforms having DLSS4 installed via Nvidia Inspector.

So this update allowed me to go from Ultra in MS2020 to Ultra with full sliders on the Terrain Detail and objects level of detail, that's a nice gain. In XP12 it allowed me to bump up the Antialiasing to one notch from full right, it was one notch from full left, all other settings stayed the same.

So what's the down side, well... instead of ending my worries with windows updates come October, I'll continue to have to hold me breath whenever I see that little update icon on the screen.

20 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Hi,

Easy enough to put it back.

Open the Windows Start menu and then the Settings app. In Settings, navigate to Personalization, then Taskbar, and open Taskbar behaviors. You’ll see a field labeled Taskbar alignment with a drop-down menu. Change the drop-dox menu from Center to Left.

I also just updated maybe a month ago.

That has been annoying me ever since.

Thanks for the info

22 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

What made Microsoft decide that removing the START button at the bottom left corner would be a good idea?

Whatever it was, it was a great idea! Moving the mouse all the way across a 32 inch screen to the bottom left hand corner is just annoying; having the Start menu items in the middle is much, much more efficient.  And good news is you can always move it back if you want.

Windows 11 is very solid platform. It is faster, more responsive, and has much better support for a range of hardware. I am really surprised people are still on 10.

On 2/7/2025 at 12:11 PM, Christopher Low said:

Ah, you can't beat good old MS-DOS. Even Windows 11 surely pales in comparison to that jewel of software architecture

Thank you Mister Gates. Nice handle you chose for this forum, Bill.

On 2/8/2025 at 11:49 PM, Cognita said:

Whatever it was, it was a great idea! Moving the mouse all the way across a 32 inch screen to the bottom left hand corner is just annoying; having the Start menu items in the middle is much, much more efficient.  And good news is you can always move it back if you want.

So funny. Brought it back to left middle if you will.

I have 2 monitors now. With it on the left, the mouse keeps floating to the second screen.

Oh well. Now I can stop bitching at my computer and Microsoft

On 2/8/2025 at 5:55 PM, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Hi,

Just finished all my 3D Mark and Cinebench testing and I find that Windows 11 is a bit slower than Windows 10 looking at the test results, "not by much" but the results are lower. With that said, XP12 and MS2020 are performing better in Win 11 than in Win10 with both base platforms having DLSS4 installed via Nvidia Inspector.

So this update allowed me to go from Ultra in MS2020 to Ultra with full sliders on the Terrain Detail and objects level of detail, that's a nice gain. In XP12 it allowed me to bump up the Antialiasing to one notch from full right, it was one notch from full left, all other settings stayed the same.

So what's the down side, well... instead of ending my worries with windows updates come October, I'll continue to have to hold me breath whenever I see that little update icon on the screen.

I still think you are conflating things...

If you didn't have DLSS enabled in W10 you don't have an apples-apples comparison...

Everything you described above is what I was able to do with DLSS in W10.  Crank OLOD to 375 TLOD to 175,  crank my settings, crank my shadows all while increasing performance and it was all DLSS.  Nothing to do with an OS upgrade... 

 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

I still think you are conflating things...

If you didn't have DLSS enabled in W10 you don't have an apples-apples comparison...

Everything you described above is what I was able to do with DLSS in W10.  Crank OLOD to 375 TLOD to 175,  crank my settings, crank my shadows all while increasing performance and it was all DLSS.  Nothing to do with an OS upgrade... 

 

 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

I still think you are conflating things...

If you didn't have DLSS enabled in W10 you don't have an apples-apples comparison...

Everything you described above is what I was able to do with DLSS in W10.  Crank OLOD to 375 TLOD to 175,  crank my settings, crank my shadows all while increasing performance and it was all DLSS.  Nothing to do with an OS upgrade... 

 

The testing was done with Windows 10 pro with DLSS4 and then in Windows 11 pro with DLSS4, the setup was the same only difference Windows 10 pro to 11 pro. Apples to Apples. I can 100% show you flickers that don't exist in windows 11 that are there in win 10! 100% repeatable.

Edited February 10, 20251 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

On 2/7/2025 at 10:49 AM, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

By updating my operating system from Windows 10 pro to Windows 11 pro and by adding DLSS4 into the mix, it has made a tremendous improvement in the overall flight sim experience.

That's not what you indicated hence my comment.   

Would be interested to see the flickers as I have posted a few videos recently in W10 w/ DLSS 4, FG and no flickering with virtually no ghosting as well...   

Happy you are happy regardless. 

 

Edited February 10, 20251 yr by psolk

1 minute ago, psolk said:

That's not what you indicated hence my comment.  

May have typed it out incorrectly, but I always test before and after to see if I've gained or lost performance. This is especially true if I don't see any visual difference after an update. I believe the smoother performance over the four computers that are networked for XP12 is a result of Win 11 pro networking, seems to out perform win 10 pro.

Before going to windows 11 I had DLSS4 running in XP12, setup via nvidia inspector, still had the exterior view flickers. It wasn't until MS2020 wouldn't load anymore (with all the nivida app nonsense) when I decided to go to Win11.

So far everything is running great, did have an issue with Windows 11 changing my Nvidia Inspector settings from 1 to 3.

Just now, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

May have typed it out incorrectly, but I always test before and after to see if I've gained or lost performance. This is especially true if I don't see any visual difference after an update. I believe the smoother performance over the four computers that are networked for XP12 is a result of Win 11 pro networking, seems to out perform win 10 pro.

Before going to windows 11 I had DLSS4 running in XP12, setup via nvidia inspector, still had the exterior view flickers. It wasn't until MS2020 wouldn't load anymore (with all the nivida app nonsense) when I decided to go to Win11.

So far everything is running great, did have an issue with Windows 11 changing my Nvidia Inspector settings from 1 to 3.

OK.  That makes sense. 

And you don't have to get nasty reminders from MS when you start your machine 😉