7 hours ago, Bjoern said:

Well, a third party aircraft may eat up to 20% of the FPS attained in an equivalent default aircraft. Beyond that, it becomes a tough sell.

Any complex aircraft will eat fps, some less than others. Its one of the best turboprops out there. Cant compare default. They usually not as complex.

8 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Any complex aircraft will eat fps, some less than others. Its one of the best turboprops out there. Cant compare default. They usually not as complex.

Not just complex aircraft, some simple 3rd party GA aircraft have really high resolution textures that seem to destroy frame-rate as well. Lucky a few offer options to lower the resolution, or it can be done yourself.

New to X-Plane, but I've ticked the boxes for what I'm interested in: Zibo 737-800 for a glass Boeing; IEXG 737-300 for a Classic; Rotate MD-80 for a Douglas; and Toliss A320neo for a bus. I've found all of these to be enjoyable and relatively hassle-free. The JARDesign A340-500 isn't awful for the price, but if I were a hardcore bus fan I probably wouldn't like it. It does fill the long-haul slot. I also REQUIRE a DC-3 🙂 and the VSLabs one is pretty good.

The SGS 747-800 looks nice and is on sale. so I'll probably be picking that up for a nicer long-haul airplane.

I have actually found JARDesign's copilot to be sort of useful and entertaining, but only have it for the Zibo & the A340-500. Other than that. I was pleased to find my Stick and Rudder ATC Chatter ported over from P3D, and PassengerFX isn't too bad (although not as nice as Simsounds in P3D). I'll be checking out some of the other things mentioned here.

But the scenery is pretty plausible no matter where I fly, so I haven't felt like adding anything there.

2 hours ago, Tim_Capps said:

REQUIRE a DC-3 🙂 

Ye have a glut of DC3's even a decent freeware one.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Ye have a glut of DC3's even a decent freeware one.

The only DC-3 out there is LeadingEdgeSimulations', the rest are C-47s, which are not DC-3s.

13 minutes ago, Bjoern said:

The only DC-3 out there is LeadingEdgeSimulations', the rest are C-47s, which are not DC-3s.

Considering the C47 is the Mil ver of the DC3, its not that much different really.

LES just needs to do something about taxiing for someone with only an Airbus sidestick. 😉 Can't taxi for word not allowed. Their "assists" don't help. From my understanding, VSL one has an "easy" mode? 

But... 

Zibo, Felis 747-200, FF A350, Colimata Concorde, and IXEG 737-300. In that order. Can't wait to get FF and Toliss stuff. 

10 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Considering the C47 is the Mil ver of the DC3, its not that much different really.

Well, I have the VSkyLabs DC-3 + DC-3 Airliner, including the "modern cockpit" version.

I did not buy the LES, although I did have it for XP9 and XP10, but I had already spent way too much money in Airlinetools when the Sales started at X-Aviation 😕

Ye I have the vskylabs one, dont need any more

All hot start products (Waiting to buy tbm900 in xp12), tolis, Q4xp and Torquesim sr22

I think there are 3 developpers that stands out with amazing products and fantastic reputation that we will barely find in any other sim:

- Toliss

- Hot Start

- freeware Zibo

I think these 3 alone are one of the main reasons for people to choose XP. They are the pillars of XP‘s success.

Then of course there are other excellent devs/addons like Felis, FJS, FlightFactor, IXEG and Airfoillabs. But I think the 3 first mentionned simply stands out because they are that unique.

Edited December 24, 20232 yr by Franz007

On 12/23/2023 at 6:04 PM, Tim_Capps said:

New to X-Plane

The 744 project jcomm spoke of in the OP is at

https://github.com/mSparks43/747-400/

On 12/19/2023 at 9:50 PM, jcomm said:

Aircraft:  Toliss A320 NEO, FF 757, Zibo 738,TOGA Mitsubishi MU-2B-60 Marquise and the mSparks 744 project.

Personally I suppose TOGA MU-2 needs more rework to be turely compatible with xp12, since some high altitude performance issues still remain. I'll take the toliss AIRBUS fleet, Rotate MD-11F and TOGA MU-2 as my selected aircrafts. Looking forward to the FF777v2 however.

MU2 - SF260 - AFL KA350 - Thranda C206 - Q4XP, to name a few

Edited December 26, 20232 yr by torfih

Hmmm, I am looking at that Skunkcrafts update of their P51D for XP12 🙂