January 2, 201412 yr Happy new year! As titled, does NVidia video card brand (ie MSi, EVGA etc.) matter when it comes to performance and quality? If they do matter, which aspects do they vary? Why I ask this is because back in the 480/580 days, I've been told by someone that now it doesn't matter as all cards essentially come out of NVidia. The companies buys it out to put their sticker or logo on it, so essentially all cards are nvidia standards. I've never bothered checking it out so never really paid attention to it. Now that I think of it, it's a little skeptical, and since I can't access google (I'm in a non-google friendly country), I'm not able to find anything... So I ask here. I'm looking at getting an EVGA GTX780Ti for an upgrade because I heard EVGA was good (but never actually used it). So what do you think? Would that be a good pick over other options like MSi or Gigabyte etc? Cheers, Brendan PS I use FSX mainly but exploring P3D2 and XP10, that's why I want such a big GPU. Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 2, 201412 yr I am an EVGA loyalist. Physically compared (4) different manufacturer GTX560 cards a year ago at the Dover, Delaware CompUSA (when it was still open) and the quality difference was clearly evident. Do not wish to say with certainty who the other (3) were from. Actually, I am certain one was from ASUS, but not sure about the other (2). Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
January 2, 201412 yr The cards are essentially the same. Some companies will enhance the cards with things like custom cooling solutions and things of that nature, but the architecture of the GPU itself is the same. From there, the choice really comes down to warranty and customer support. EVGA, by most accounts is a good company when it comes to after sale support so I think you made a good choice. Cheers. :smile: "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." -Leonardo da Vinci (some experts question the attribution, but I'll go with it for now.)
January 2, 201412 yr The cards are essentially the same. Then why did the four I looked at, laid out side by side, not look at all the same? No two looked the same. Highly similar perhaps, actually more like similar, but not the same. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
January 2, 201412 yr Zotac Evga MSI Gigabyte PNY ASUS Are all well known names, and as said above they are pretty much all the same, except in the little extras of styling (cooling solutions, colors, memory additions, overclocks) they use to differentiate their brands from the rest of the pack. Some companies go the extra mile and offer "step-up" programs that allow you to upgrade to a more powerful card simply by paying the price differential between the two within a certain time after purchase. I believe some even offer lifetime warranties and other incentives. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
January 2, 201412 yr So the circuit boards, the piece-level parts and components, the printed circuits, are all the same? No difference in production process or QC? Sorry, I have yet to see this in any industry for any product, even those by prescription. There is a significant difference between licensed products and identical products. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
January 2, 201412 yr Read my whole post. I said they are essentially the same. The GPU architecture is the same. A 780 is a 780 because they all come from Nvidia. Do you really want to get into an argument over semantics?? Geez. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." -Leonardo da Vinci (some experts question the attribution, but I'll go with it for now.)
January 2, 201412 yr Some manufacturers will use a combination of higher end ram, resistors, regulators, overall circuitry etc as well as a custom heatsink and fan to enable a higher overclocking ability. Whether it's set by you or them. These days they all seem to be quite good, it's all a matter of which marketing scheme looks best to you. They'll all have similar warranty and speeds based on using the same GPU. The 780 ti is a high end card, you really cant go wrong. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
January 2, 201412 yr I am an EVGA loyalist. Physically compared (4) different manufacturer GTX560 cards a year ago at the Dover, Delaware CompUSA (when it was still open) and the quality difference was clearly evident. Do not wish to say with certainty who the other (3) were from. Actually, I am certain one was from ASUS, but not sure about the other (2). I bought last mid year, the EVGA GTX Signature Overclock GTX680, and (knock on wood....) have had only rock steady usage from it. They bundle a great overdrive app, and from my experience, would not hesitate to just keep buying from this company. I'm sure that others that have purchased other branded, but the same card, have had also good usage experiences. For myself, though, and at the price these high level cards are costing....'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'...will be my motivator for the next upgrade, when that happens. EVGA puts out great quality.
January 2, 201412 yr Over the past ten years I've had cards from Inno, Connect3D, EVGA, Palit, Sapphire, Zotac and Gigabyte. I've never had a problem with any of them. Michael Turner
January 4, 201412 yr Author Due to limited stock (very very limited), I got hold of an Inno 780Ti (with 3 fans, it looks mean :mad: ), was aiming to go for an OC version, but somehow it ended up not being one... I don't do extreme gaming so hope I'm not missing much for not having a preOCd version. How do GFX cards OC with default cooling? Can I bump it up a little without custom cooling? Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 4, 201412 yr Due to limited stock (very very limited), I got hold of an Inno 780Ti (with 3 fans, it looks mean :mad: ), was aiming to go for an OC version, but somehow it ended up not being one... I don't do extreme gaming so hope I'm not missing much for not having a preOCd version. How do GFX cards OC with default cooling? Can I bump it up a little without custom cooling? As a general rule, the overclocks on so called "Overclocked" cards tend to be so small as to be more symbolic than actually useful. Most cards will come with software now that will do it for you anyway. The only real difference is that a factory overclocked has been certified to run at the OC speeds whereas your own card may vary on what it can reach safely. Check the supplied software. The fact is, there is little (VERY little) reason to overclock a card that fast, anyways.... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
January 4, 201412 yr Author As a general rule, the overclocks on so called "Overclocked" cards tend to be so small as to be more symbolic than actually useful. Most cards will come with software now that will do it for you anyway. The only real difference is that a factory overclocked has been certified to run at the OC speeds whereas your own card may vary on what it can reach safely. Check the supplied software. The fact is, there is little (VERY little) reason to overclock a card that fast, anyways.... Even for P3D2 and XP10? Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 4, 201412 yr I got hold of an Inno 780Ti (with 3 fans, it looks mean) How do GFX cards OC with default cooling? Can I bump it up a little without custom cooling? Assuming you mean the iChill GeForce GTX 780Ti HerculeZ X3 Ultra? http://www.inno3d.com/product/ichillgtx780ti.html ? If so that card comes with a nice overclock as it is. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
January 4, 201412 yr Author Assuming you mean the iChill GeForce GTX 780Ti HerculeZ X3 Ultra? http://www.inno3d.com/product/ichillgtx780ti.html ? If so that card comes with a nice overclock as it is. That's the one I had a look at the box but didn't say anything about overclocking. That's done, now it's time to find where the power goes and in the machine it goes! Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
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