Dave_YVR

Get a better set of AI aircraft and by that I mean AIG. The all white aircraft is PSXT's way of telling you that it knows what and who it is, but you don't have the livery or type so it's using something else instead. Honestly, FSLTL includes just a handful of B747-8F's and B77F's and JustFlight's even weaker traffic package has NO 747's or even 777-200's at all let alone any LRF's. For what it's worth, JustFlights Traffic fleet doesn't bring ANYTHING to your sim that isn't already included in FSLTL. AIG has far more models and close to 9x the liveries that FSLTL has. PANC comes alive using AIG with PSXT, not to mention PSXT is also better setup to use AIG's fleet.

What does your psxt log show?

That is one of the main reasons for me to only use it. None of the ATC programs can move traffic anywhere near like real ATC, it's just too corny to watch. So with that, I treat traffic as 100% eye candy and PSXT is the ONLY one to come even close to properly moving traffic.

I looked in my psxt log at ESSA just to see and from the psxt archive showed a few discrepancies in terms of NEO and CEO assignments. The issue I see is that the airport file for those erroneous flights is missing the aircraft reg or it just has a flight number and type being an A320 so it uses what is the closest match.

Have you gone to a busy airport yet and watched the departure line up actually work and not just cause a massive mess because the default ATC has no idea what it's doing or how to move traffic? I watch for 5 mins with any of the others and I have to turn it off, my ATC ocd goes nuts.

Honestly I would say to remove or disable the FSLTL fleet as it doesn't add any models or liveries that aren't already in AIG and also because PSXT has better matching tied to AIG. I also think but not certain that the contrail effects for both use the default contrails from the sim. For your examples listed above with the NEO and CEO's, check your log and I would hazard a guess that where you see those errors, they are using FSLTL aircraft in the incorrect matching. You could also be seeing archived data in PSXT from previous weeks when those particular flights may have used the older CEO?

AIG, more models and WAY more liveries. The only model that FSLTL brought to the table that AIG doesn't already provide was the MD-11. AIG's models also conform to the MSFS SDK for both 2020 and 2024.

Yeah I get that. But after using it for quite a while now I would really have a hard time going back to anything else. The amount of cool traffic that shows up is often pretty amazing. Military Helicopters, trainers, and transports. The bizjets, and GA etc. It's all quite addictive lol.

They are all actual live flights in real time. If I went to Shoreham for instance it would be even better, AIG has added hundreds of accurate UK reg'd Cessnas and Pipers GA paints. I'll fire it up and see what I get from this afternoon.

This is another huge reason why I much prefer PSXT. Here's a tiny sample from my PSXT log taken just now around the SFO bay area. Tons of GA around! N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N1242N N1242N PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N620RJ N620RJ PVT S22T =4= TBAI Cirrus SR-22 Turbo Generic Blank Fake N838MM N838MM PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N757PP N757PP PVT C152 =4= HTAI Cessna 152 N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N837SP N837SP PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N733ZK N733ZK PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N838MM N838MM PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N620RJ N620RJ PVT S22T =4= TBAI Cirrus SR-22 Turbo Generic Blank Fake N1242N N1242N PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N739UL N739UL PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk GATE B21 : AAL1253 parks N52275 N52275 PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N733ZK N733ZK PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N757PP N757PP PVT C152 =4= HTAI Cessna 152 N838MM N838MM PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N1242N N1242N PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N620RJ N620RJ PVT S22T =4= TBAI Cirrus SR-22 Turbo Generic Blank Fake N739UL N739UL PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N837SP N837SP PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N757PP N757PP PVT C152 =4= HTAI Cessna 152 N733ZK N733ZK PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N52275 N52275 PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk UAL888 N78017 SFO->PEK UAL B772. =0= AIGAIM_United Airlines Boeing 777-200ER - GE OC Star Alliance SWA845 N8917Q DEN->SFO SWA B38M. =1= AIGAIM_Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 8 N739UL N739UL PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N620RJ N620RJ PVT S22T =4= TBAI Cirrus SR-22 Turbo Generic Blank Fake N1242N N1242N PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N838MM N838MM PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner ASA847 N205HA OAK->HNL HAL A21N. =1= AIGAIM_Hawaiian Airlines Airbus A321-200neo N335MD N335MD PVT PA32 =4= DFAI Piper Cherokee Six Generic N757PP N757PP PVT C152 =4= HTAI Cessna 152 N837SP N837SP PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N52275 N52275 PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N733ZK N733ZK PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N129TT N129TT PVT C25B. =4= DFAI Cessna Citation CJ3 Generic N838MM N838MM PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N1242N N1242N PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N739UL N739UL PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N620RJ N620RJ PVT S22T =4= TBAI Cirrus SR-22 Turbo Generic Blank Fake N335MD N335MD PVT PA32 =4= DFAI Piper Cherokee Six Generic N76010 N76010 AKL->SFO UAL B772. =1= AIGAIM_United Airlines Boeing 777-200ER - GE OC N757PP N757PP PVT C152 =4= HTAI Cessna 152 N65504 N65504 PVT C182 =4= HTAI Cessna 182 Skylane Early Chrome Spinner N837SP N837SP PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk N733ZK N733ZK PVT C172 =4= HTAI Cessna 172 Skyhawk

What % is PSXT set to at SFO? Maybe it was a slower period? I'm looking right now IRL and there's only 2 taxiing out for departure, it's not uncommon.

Are you certain that those AIG and FSLTL aircraft collections are active within MSFS 2024 and not just 2020? Run AIG's AI Manager and ensure that you have MSFS2024 selected. While the OCI setups between 2020 and 2024 are nearly the same, having it properly setup for 2024 ensures that everything needed is in place.

So far so good on my end.

I think also if you find that the MSFS Online traffic injects those odd default MSFS AI aircraft that it shouldn't, it's from FSLTL not having the appropriate models or liveries. Edit.. Ok, so I went and tried it with only AIG and my custom ai aircraft collection and the default Live Traffic while not bad, still left A LOT to be desired. It still uses msny default MSFS models and liveries that aren't even close to what it should be using even though they are available to use and it has no idea about using the correct livery to the reg where applicable. Ie new livery, old livery, special livery and so on. Movements are also no where near as close to smooth compared to PSXT. Lots of traffic seemingly stuck mid taxi etc. I gave the sim 25-30mins to settle down traffic wise and still only had 21 aircraft on the field at LAX at 1750local, but there was steady arrivals on the outside parallels at least and everyone arriving/departing on the correct runways etc. TBH though, I couldn't wait to turn off the default live traffic and fire up PSXT where LAX has a more accurate 95+ aircraft (only set to 75% mind you), everyone parks where they should, they don't d1ck around getting on or off the runways etc and they are all in the correct liveries.

This is inherent with using the AI engine of the sim. FSLTL is/was no different and AIGTC also uses the ai engine of the sim for parking.

Real Traffic also sees FAR more traffic than FR24 ever has.

cat 3 or 4? Not sure those are but. CYLW-CYYJ, a visually stunning approach high over Vancouver and across the straight to Victoria. Gorgeous and great training.

PSXT traffic is already being controlled by actual controllers so no. Direct injection based radar, adsbx, mlat etc returns.

Perfect!

You could but it might break your AI Manager in that it will no longer know where your OCI install is located and want to download everything again. You won't be able to update either. There is a function I believe within AI Manager to move your OCI to another location but I've never tried it.

AI Manager lets you know if there's a model update and it only takes a few minutes. As for the errors, generally they aren't a big deal unless you have lots of the same model and it's a model that is very commonly seen. It all depends on what you are showing error wise.

Why don't you want to use PSXT? It's free, super easy to use and it's what actually injects the traffic into your sim.

You won't miss FSLTL for very long, AIG has quite a few more models and about 9 times the liveries.

And it's much much better than FSLTL for traffic coverage plus it doesn't use the ai engine of the sim.

AIG is WELL past 30gb. I don't have nearly everything installed AND I have reduced most of the filesizes down to 4mb textures and mine is nearing 62gb. Luckily space isn't an issue. But I agree with above, to only install a few airlines at a time and to be around for the install in the event that it prompts you for input of any sort.