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That’s pretty much where I landed too. If I just want believable movement around the airport, PSXT makes sense. But for normal offline flying I still prefer the simpler compromise of AIG plus the default real-time traffic, mostly because it keeps the cost and setup down. It isn’t as convincing in motion, especially for GA, but for me it’s good enough as background traffic.

That does sound more like a current 2024 scenery bug than a bad local install, especially if the official forum report matches what you're seeing. I’d still do one quick sanity check with an empty Community folder and a stock aircraft at Meigs just to rule out an add-on conflict. If it still happens after that, I’d leave your install alone and chalk it up to the sim for now.

If AIG Manager is installed under Program Files, I would move it out of there first. That kind of updater loop is often just Windows or UAC blocking the overwrite. Running AIG Manager once as admin is worth a try too. If the new zip is already sitting in the AIG folder after the prompt, the download part probably worked and the replace step is what is failing.

With hardware like that I’d first look at what’s being drawn and simulated around you on the ground rather than cruise settings.\n\nThe big hitters for me at busy hubs are AI traffic density, parked aircraft, airport workers/vehicles, and terrain/object LOD if it’s set aggressively. A heavy third party airport can also be the whole story at places like LAX.\n\nWhat I usually do is cut one thing at a time and retest at the same gate, same weather, same time of day. If the stutter disappears after reducing traffic or ground clutter, you’ve found the bucket.\n\nAlso worth checking whether you’re using a third party airport and any traffic injector, because those can change the picture a lot on the ground.

I ended up sticking with AIG plus the default real-time traffic. For airline traffic it’s good enough for me and it avoids adding another paid layer on top. GA coverage is still the weak spot in that setup, so I can see why people look at PSXT or GAmod depending on what they want to see.

AIG is great for airline model coverage and schedules, but in my experience it does not really solve the GA side. I use it more for the airliner side and then let the sim handle whatever GA it can, so I would treat the Global flightplans as airline coverage rather than a way to fill in small GA traffic.

I've ended up using both too, just in different roles. For me BATC is better when I want online-style phraseology and more of that airline flow, but SayIntentions is still the easier one when I want GA or just a less managed IFR hop. I don't really see them as strict substitutes anymore, more like two tools that suit different nights.

I've ended up using both too, just in different roles. For me BATC is better when I want online-style phraseology and more of that airline flow, but SayIntentions is still the easier one when I want GA or just a less managed IFR hop. I don't really see them as strict substitutes anymore, more like two tools that suit different nights.I've ended up using both too, just in different roles. For me BATC is better when I want online-style phraseology and more of that airline flow, but SayIntentions is still the easier one when I want GA or just a less managed IFR hop. I don't really see them as strict substitutes anymore, more like two tools that suit different nights.I've ended up using both too, just in different roles. For me BATC is better when I want online-style phraseology and more of that airline flow, but SayIntentions is still the easier one when I want GA or just a less managed IFR hop. I don't really see them as strict substitutes anymore, more like two tools that suit different nights.

737-800 here. Same thing on my side with the PMDG for me. Height tweak helps a bit, but the truck still ends up looking off under the wing, so it does not seem like just a one-airframe quirk.

What I care about more is whether they actually deliver serious systems depth without turning into a workflow fight every flight. For IFR I’m already pretty settled with the PMDG 737 and FShud for offline ATC, so for me the interesting part is whether these Expert Series aircraft will feel genuinely complete in normal use, not just look impressive on a feature list. If they get the systems depth right and keep the day to day flow clean, that’s the part that matters.

FSHud support both sims!

Thank you for your messages! Then I try Si for one month, but you right, is too expensive for subscription, especially if you don't fly VFR each day. So yea... Maybe even non ATC, just fly and enjoy around without "chatter". I deleted BATC, that's why I'm asking, don't want install again and waste time, so thanks for feedback! I have my setup with FShud, configured my favorite airports according real AIP, using costume AI models and different sources. Yea, voices in BATC somewhere better, but unfortunately BATC can't give me at least 80 active aircraft and proper vectoring... So will be waiting BATC for VFR! Definitely will use BATC as no subscription for VFR

I'm looking for VFR, as for IFR I have a already ATC. Reading here and there... Who was using Si and BATC regarding VFR, what you can recommended?

Just want to say thank you for this amazing ATC and your last updates! Now I'm enjoying my flights with so many aircrafts, everything super smooth!

FSHud! I'm most happiest person! Thank you for that experience!