On 6/22/2025 at 6:23 PM, lehbird said:

I am really at a loss. I am entering the ILS Frequency on the pedestal, but still cannot get the diamonds on HSI. Is there another switch somewhere I need to hit / flip?

make sure the set the CRS as well

3 hours ago, AJZip2 said:

  I've wasted the whole evening trying to do a 'cold and dark' with it rather than starting with engines running in MSFS2024.

Simply spawn at a gate.

51 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Simply spawn at a gate.

Well, I tried that.  Didn’t work until I did the settings change.  But, logically, you are right.  I’ll delete the setting tomorrow and try again at a few more gates now I know how to fix it if it still doesn’t work.

9 hours ago, Farlis said:

Simply spawn at a gate.

No - I checked and this does not solve the problem.

I removed my settings change and, for the iFly Max 8, I was back to being unable to enter the aircraft whether at a Ramp or at a Gate.  The 'Enter Aircraft' click box does nothing; Shift+C does nothing.

For other aircraft, I would agree.  But on my system, the iFly Max 8 - without the settings change - will not allow me entry.  And based on the Flight1 Discord, a number of other users are having the same problem 

And so, since then, I have now added back the settings change (in Settings for Keyboard, searching for 'Take Control of Character' and adding 'Shift+C' into the command box).  With this change re-installed now, happily, I am back to  Shift+C, or clicking the 'Enter Aircraft' click box back working for both Ramps and Gates

4 minutes ago, AJZip2 said:

No - I checked and this does not solve the problem.

I was not referring to the part about you not being able to get in. I was referring to the part where you said you wanted to do a cold and dark start. And normally when you spawn on the runway the sim sets the aircrafts to fully configured and in order for a cold and dark start one has to start at a gate.

After considering it for a pretty long time I finally bought it (using msfs2020).

This is my little review, so far:

++ flight model and ground physics

++ Sounds

+ VC, cabin and external visuals

- EFB (but I knew)

-- LNAV

 

I guess it's kind of my pet peeve but I'm very disappointed of the state the LNAV is in. This is one of the main reasons I also dislike the PMDG 737. In my few flights with the add-on, I instantly noticed strange turn behavior in LNAV mode. Starting turns very noticeably in the wrong direction before going the right way. Overshooting turns, requiring a counter turn at the end of the turn (this is happening very often). Banking very hard for only a few degrees turn (also often). Making bank changes in the turn (no constant turn). In many turns, the ND shows a slight offset building up.

I was hoping the ifly would behave much better in that regard. My personal gold reference is still the Fenix A320 when it comes to LNAV. They have a very, very capable controller imho, which feels just right. When that thing has problems, I almost always find an explainable cause, like turns between waypoints that are very close or too tight turns for the current speed. This was not the case with the ifly. Seemingly easy turns just performed badly. Let's see what sp1 brings...

I also finally made the purchase and have two strange problems in VR:

1. If I enter VR for the first time and reset my view using the space key, then the engines shut down for a short moment but then spool up again. But the generators are cut so I have to reengage them. Very strange. And no, I haven't assigned the space key to any other function in MSFS than resetting the view in VR.

2. If I try to use the MSFS EFB mid-flight and enter a destination airport (to look at the charts), then as soon as I have entered the ICAO code and press enter, the engines shut down and never recover. Which is of course the end of the flight. Does anyone else experience these problems?

Regardless of these problems, it is a lot of fun flying the iFly 737 Max. I haven't flown the 737 in a while, because I haven't purchased the PDMG in MSFS. But I had flown the PMDG a lot in P3D. Instead, it has been all Fenix A320 for the last three years or so. Good to have some more variety and a bird which keeps you more engaged during a flight.

 

Edited June 24, 2025Jun 24 by carlito777

The last couple of flights I've found VNAV to be very sensitive in the descent. Setting a lower MCP altitude and letting it descend on the path from top of descent let to a sudden pitch down to a descent rate of over 6000fpm and rapidly increasing airspeed. Had to arrest the descent rate using V/S and put it back on the right path, then re-engage VNAV.

8 hours ago, carlito777 said:

I also finally made the purchase and have two strange problems in VR:

1. If I enter VR for the first time and reset my view using the space key, then the engines shut down for a short moment but then spool up again. But the generators are cut so I have to reengage them. Very strange. And no, I haven't assigned the space key to any other function in MSFS than resetting the view in VR.

2. If I try to use the MSFS EFB mid-flight and enter a destination airport (to look at the charts), then as soon as I have entered the ICAO code and press enter, the engines shut down and never recover. Which is of course the end of the flight. Does anyone else experience these problems?

Regardless of these problems, it is a lot of fun flying the iFly 737 Max. I haven't flown the 737 in a while, because I haven't purchased the PDMG in MSFS. But I had flown the PMDG a lot in P3D. Instead, it has been all Fenix A320 for the last three years or so. Good to have some more variety and a bird which keeps you more engaged during a flight.

 

I would go back into your controls menu and see if Asobo automatically assigned something to your engine cut off. I had issues with my landing gears intermittently working with the button I assigned, and after some more searching found, my trim buttons got assigned to gear up/down automatically be 2024.

On 6/24/2025 at 4:12 AM, Tom Wright said:

The last couple of flights I've found VNAV to be very sensitive in the descent. Setting a lower MCP altitude and letting it descend on the path from top of descent let to a sudden pitch down to a descent rate of over 6000fpm and rapidly increasing airspeed. Had to arrest the descent rate using V/S and put it back on the right path, then re-engage VNAV.

I've seen strange pitch oscillations start once in 2024, in vnav with AP engaged, but this was after zapping the plane around many times with FSIPanel to test various things.  That tends to anger complex add-ons.  Interesting if someone else has seen similar.  That's the only other report, as far as I know.

Edited June 25, 2025Jun 25 by Stearmandriver

Just now, Stearmandriver said:

I've seen strange pitch oscillations start once in 2024, in vnav with AP engaged, but this was after zapping the plane around many times with FSIPanel to test various things.  That tends to anger complex add-ons.  Interesting if someone else has seen similar.  That's the only other report, as far as I know.

I had severe pitch oscilations in APP mode yesterday as I was approaching Lisbon. The trim was trying to catch up and made everything worse. I eventually disengaged the AP and brought it under control myself and landed it manually, but that was really weird.

9 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

I've seen strange pitch oscillations start once in 2024, in vnav with AP engaged, but this was after zapping the plane around many times with FSIPanel to test various things.  That tends to anger complex add-ons.  Interesting if someone else has seen similar.  That's the only other report, as far as I know.

I had a few times that the plane rocked left and right like it was stuck in a slideshow and then for a few minutes. Also the flight director when like left right left right, like stuck in a loop. But then really like shocking 1 sec left and then right. After disconnecting autopilot it stops.

If it happens again will record a movie.

Edited June 25, 2025Jun 25 by rob0203

On 6/24/2025 at 2:31 AM, NovemberUniform said:

I guess it's kind of my pet peeve but I'm very disappointed of the state the LNAV is in. This is one of the main reasons I also dislike the PMDG 737. In my few flights with the add-on, I instantly noticed strange turn behavior in LNAV mode. Starting turns very noticeably in the wrong direction before going the right way. Overshooting turns, requiring a counter turn at the end of the turn (this is happening very often). Banking very hard for only a few degrees turn (also often). Making bank changes in the turn (no constant turn). In many turns, the ND shows a slight offset building up.

The way I read this, it's difficult to tell if most of these concerns are aimed at PMDG or iFly.  They sound like PMDG issues; the iFly definitely doesn't manifest most of them - if it is, you've got to re-visit your controller lockout settings. 

The one thing that the iFly will sometimes do is drift a little wide in arcs - but only under certain circumstances.  Also note that bank angle changes are to be expected through an RF leg, as wind will affect the bank angle needed to maintain a constant radius.  These changes are gradual, smooth, and definitely not oscillating in the real airplane the way they are in the PMDG, but they do happen; they'd need to. 

I'm willing to guess there's probably no one in the sim community who has tortured-tested LNAV/VNAV behavior in the 737s the way I have.  I'm far, far down the rabbit hole on this stuff, building a non-public network of real-world procedures into the nav data of the PMDGs, the iFly, and a couple in the Fenix just to try it.  These procedures in reality are built to a proprietary TERPs criteria authorized for use by this specific airline, meaning they can get closer to terrain than public criteria allows.  On RNP .10 procedures, that's awful close.  They're the most demanding procedures around, in other words.  And while the iFly does not fly them perfectly, it is the best of the 3 families.  Fenix is ok but is stymied by certain conditions, such an an RF leg to a runway.  PMDG can't handle that at all, and reliably puts me into a mountain at a fix where one RF leg reverses to another in the opposite direction - besides just flying inaccurately in general.  In the iFly, this stuff actually WORKS - not always perfectly, but functionally.  It's impressive. 

Also though, my understanding is that LNAV and VNAV are getting some level of work between polishing and full re-writes for SP1, so it should improve even more.

8 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

I had a few times that the plane rocked left and right like it was stuck in a slideshow and then for a few minutes. Also the flight director when like left right left right, like stuck in a loop. But then really like shocking 1 sec left and then right. After disconnecting autopilot it stops.

If it happens again will record a movie.

Lateral rocking sounds more like an unrealistic mode of turbulence I've seen in 24, in other aircraft as well - it's an -ism of this sim.  What do you have your turbulence set to?  If "realistic" you might want to knock it down, as "realistic" definitely is not.  I've been using medium but even that seems a bit much sometimes.  Might see if that makes a difference.

21 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

The way I read this, it's difficult to tell if most of these concerns are aimed at PMDG or iFly.  They sound like PMDG issues;

I mean the iFly MAX.

23 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

you've got to re-visit your controller lockout settings.

I will, but I'm sure I have the controllers locked out with activated AP.

 

25 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

Also note that bank angle changes are to be expected through an RF leg, as wind will affect the bank angle needed to maintain a constant radius.

Understood. All my observations were made during enroute turns. I haven't done RNP approaches, yet.

On the flight1 discord there are multiple inquiries about LNAV performance. It seems I'm not the only one affected.

38 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

I'm willing to guess there's probably no one in the sim community who has tortured-tested LNAV/VNAV behavior in the 737s the way I have.

Yeah, I know. Thanks for your contributions to this forum. I really appreciate it.