I'd just ignore him, by his own admission he has not even bought 2024, and further confirms above he wasn't even there at the launch of 2020 to see what a disaster that was.

2 hours ago, scotchegg said:

His confirmation bias won’t let him

you hit the nail on the head

53 minutes ago, Simselli said:

 

I'd just ignore him, by his own admission he has not even bought 2024, and further confirms above he wasn't even there at the launch of 2020 to see what a disaster that was.

Well, it's funny to me, because a couple of years ago I was still on P3D, and he was one of the people saying I needed to quit P3D ("flies on rails" he said.  "Minecraft graphics" he said) and get with MSFS2020.   Now fast-forward to today, and he's the *opposite*(!) -- we should NOT be all-in for the new thing (MSFS2024) and instead stick with the old (2020) aka P3D using his comparison from back then.

I'm not gonna ignore him, I like him.  I guess I don't take this stuff seriously enough to spurn someone over it, unless they would cuss me or troll me or something like that.  In a years time it'll all calm down anyway.  This unfolding exactly like 2020-21.

So far there have been 2 fixes for 2024 from Asobo (I think). The first one listed over 600 fixes. The second one only had a couple.

15 hours ago, LGKR said:

MSFS2020 gives me a stutter free experience.

If I switch to MSFS024, what more will I get (apart from lower fps/stutter) ???? Not interested in career mode, only free flight/tubeliners.

If you are truly happy with MSFS2020, my suggestion is to hold off on MSFS2024 for now.

The bad reviews are not a conspiracy and MSFS2024 has not lived up to the hype, and the 2 patches did little to improve the enormous amount of issues.

I am sure that things will improve with time. However, you can be spending that "time" enjoying MSFS2020 until MSFS2024 is more stable. Of course MSFS2024 look better etc. but the stability with connections, performance, bugs etc. needs to improve.

Still arguing 2020 vs 2024?  When will it end? 

15 hours ago, CFIJose said:

Since you fly airliners, then you should stick with 2020 until the new sim matures.

^^^ this right here is what I keep reading, I look for reason to buy 24 - but for airline operations I cant bring myself to do it.

18 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

^^^ this right here is what I keep reading, I look for reason to buy 24 - but for airline operations I cant bring myself to do it.

Some say that they are using fs2024 with airliners successfully. I doubt that it's how I use airliners in MSFS 2020.

I’m currently flying iniBuilds A330 (it’s not bad) from Detroit to Anchorage, no issues. Other airliners: Fenix, RJ, iniBuilds A300 + the other two default iniBuilds (A320 Neo + A321LR). I tried Asobo’s MAX, didn’t like it.

There’s probably more than enough negative YT videos out there. On my channel I’ve got 20 MSFS2024 videos, 9 of those are airliner flights. 

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

2 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Some say that they are using fs2024 with airliners successfully. I doubt that it's how I use airliners in MSFS 2020.

How do you use airliners?

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

How do you use airliners?

I'll copy and paste my answer on another thread:

"Even though I have the Fenix A320, I prefer the PMDG airliners. If my PMDG 737, GSX Pro, Active Sky, BATC + FSLTL AI traffic don't work, then I'd have to wait until the sim is fully optimized. There's a possibility that I'll never switch to MSFS 2024 since I could not get good performance from a Cessna 172 with zero add-ons. Simulating airliners is a different animal."

Cpt it's possible that right now I could use MSFS 2024 for VFR with low & slow airplanes. I'm just waiting a few more months to see how well the sim will progress.

26 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

There's a possibility that I'll never switch to MSFS 2024 since I could not get good performance from a Cessna 172 with zero add-ons. Simulating airliners is a different animal.

Makes sense, it’s a pity you don’t get better performance. Even though I like 2024 a lot, I guess airliner flights are not that different to 2020. I miss the iFly MAX though!

9 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Did you also see a 43% negative rating in the reviews? 

I remember a very similar negative sentiment from a LOT of people.

Ironically, it was mostly smack talk from the Prepar3D "Serious Simmers".

And, just like now, there were quite a few legitimate problems, and many folks were confidently predicting the doom of the new sim.

Here we are years later and it all seems like deja vu where only the names have changed...

3 hours ago, Fielder said:

So far there have been 2 fixes for 2024 from Asobo (I think). The first one listed over 600 fixes. The second one only had a couple.

Don't forget that a LOT of things are constantly being fixed on the back end in the cloud - part of the reason they chose this "thin client" architecture of v24.

3 hours ago, Huascar said:

Still arguing 2020 vs 2024?  When will it end? 

Edit. NVM.

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80