Been reading bits and snippits of P3D. Thought a thread of P3D with Orbx as a review or commentary would be nice. Some focus on it by users and the benefits it is endowed with. Any tweaking necessary, textures popping up, frame fates etc, issues we all have with FSX, does P3D fix that? FSX tweaking has me worn out. P3d the same? Any pros or cons, thus the community has greater insight and encouragement to switch. I have not switched yet, so I am looking for a reasonable excuse to do so. Hopefully this thread will provide information for fence sitters like myself.

Not until EZDOC and ITracker work with it, no way.

No TIR? -1 P3D, +1 FSX. BTW, This is not a troll post FSX vs 3PD, but stuff like TIR not working is nice to know. I use TIR and times I do not. But flying Helicopters, prefer TIR.

Not until EZDOC and ITracker work with it, no way.

Both have worked for months already thanks to Marniftar's EZCA beta. And P3D 1.3 no longer crashes on exit when using EZCA.The only drawback is that if you don't have/want to use EZCA, then no TIR.

Both have worked for months already thanks to Marniftar's EZCA beta. And P3D 1.3 no longer crashes on exit when using EZCA.The only drawback is that if you don't have/want to use EZCA, then no TIR.

Are you saying you cannot use both at the same time?

No, sorry I didn't make myself clear but I'm Dutch and have been living in France for a looong time (too long ?) :wink:In order to get TIR to work, you need the EZCA beta which intercepts TIR data and injects it into P3D so to summarize :P3D + TIR : no (until Naturalpoint updates its software)P3D + EZCA : okP3D + EZCA + TIR : ok

P3D + EZCA + TIR : ok

That is great information, getting TIR working for P3D is a big plus.

Thank you Jean-Paul.

Indeed with the licenses both for the ORBX stuff and the new license policy of P3D itself I'd like to see a good comparison. A feature by feature, plusses and minuses type review.

 

Sadly Sims seem to attract a rather (IMHO unnecessarily) sport fan mentality. FSX or nothing!!! P3D or you're a looser!!!! etc. If you buy a car you compare features, spec, performance etc. Why folk get so silly over software beats me?

 

There were a series of articles about P3D in PC pilot but it wasn't really a review. More of a report/preview of the project.

 

I don't have P3D so I can't contribute but if anyone who has wanted to point up any specific differences maybe we could construct a group review. It would also have the benefit of being publicly edited... as in the debate above about Track IR?

 

A simple table of features FSX in one column and P3D in the other would be a start. Several comparisons between FS9 and FSX were done like this.

 

Geoff

Indeed with the licenses both for the ORBX stuff and the new license policy of P3D itself I'd like to see a good comparison. A feature by feature, plusses and minuses type review.

 

Sadly Sims seem to attract a rather (IMHO unnecessarily) sport fan mentality. FSX or nothing!!! P3D or you're a looser!!!! etc. If you buy a car you compare features, spec, performance etc. Why folk get so silly over software beats me?

 

There were a series of articles about P3D in PC pilot but it wasn't really a review. More of a report/preview of the project.

 

I don't have P3D so I can't contribute but if anyone who has wanted to point up any specific differences maybe we could construct a group review. It would also have the benefit of being publicly edited... as in the debate above about Track IR?

 

A simple table of features FSX in one column and P3D in the other would be a start. Several comparisons between FS9 and FSX were done like this.

 

Geoff

 

Geoff, I notice you have a nasty habit of talking sense. Try to curb it will you?

Having spent the day tinkering with P3D 1.3 yesterday, here's what I think you'll notice in comparison to FSX: -

 

- Completely smooth visuals. A seamless quality. As for frame rates, please don't ask, not interested in them - it's the numbers game - smoothness is my goal.

- Almost an elegance to the way GA planes move through the air.

- Better, stronger colours with no apparent bias.

- Better definition of scenery, even without bloom. It just looks more believable and you want to explore every nook and cranny.

- Better definition of aircraft textures, even the P3D default stuff.

- No blurries at all on photoscenery.

- A simplified interface with more tweaking options than FSX.

- Autogen that can be pushed to the max without the usual penalties.

- The confidence that the product is being actively developed as we speak, with no apparent end in sight. This is just the start!

 

For every yin, there is, of course, a yang, and there is still an extremely strong and quite compelling argument for FSX: -

 

- Universality

- Universality

- and, er, universality

 

Whether we end up with entirely the replacement sim we all wish for is largely in the hands of those add-on developers yet to truly embrace it. But I would say that, even if some don't wish to come to the party, though why not escapes me, they may not be missed all that much, because the overall experience in P3D is pretty overwhelming, especially if, like me, you've probably spent more time under the hood of FSX than flying in the darned thing, though I must say that factor has decreased dramatically with my most recent hardware upgrades.

 

For now, I will run FSX and P3D in parallel and see where it takes us. That said, the fat lady is most definitely warming up in her dressing room...

From what I understand P3D has an option to increase the Texture Max Load to 4096 and it doesn't drop back to 1024 when you change a slider in the scenery options. I wonder if that is contributing to the improved texture visuals you are seeing.

 

Thanks BTW, I think I will jump in when they release 2.0 as it seems like the closest thing to FS11. As for now I am enjoying Xplane, and enjoying building scenery for the program with all of the cool tools that are available.

From what I understand P3D has an option to increase the Texture Max Load to 4096 and it doesn't drop back to 1024 when you change a slider in the scenery options. I wonder if that is contributing to the improved texture

 

Yes I'm sure that's true, but there is a clarity to everything and a smoothness that has never been apparent in FSX.

Yes I'm sure that's true, but there is a clarity to everything and a smoothness that has never been apparent in FSX.

 

You were saying.....

 

You were saying.....

 

 

Looks stuttery to me. You should lock down the FPS to 30.