Title about says it all. I'm willing to spend for the 5090 if that's what's needed for a smooth VR experience in 2020/2024 with the Crystal Light, but of course I'd rather not if it isn't necessary especially since I don't feel like having to worry about melting power connectors or shoddy QC. I'd honestly rather give my money to AMD this time around because Nvidia has become such a dumpster fire, but the early previews of the upcoming releases are that the best you can do with AMD is about the equivalent of a 5070Ti, and I'm not sure that would be good enough.

I'm currently running a 3070Ti on a 7800X3d with 32g ram, and it just can't run the Pimax at any resolution better than "total blur, the gauges aren't even readable." If I had my druthers I'd get a 4090 but the only places I can find one for less than 3-5 grand are from suspicious sites I've never heard of, so that's out.

BTW, I'll be upping the ram to 64g at the same time I buy the new card, if that makes a difference. Any thoughts? Thanks

7 hours ago, eslader said:

Title about says it all.

I would say the lowest you want to go is what I have in my signature.  I get great performance (2020) from my card but anything lower might have a problem.  2024 at this time is a whole other animal.

Edited March 2, 20251 yr by Dillon

9 hours ago, eslader said:

I'm willing to spend for the 5090 if that's what's needed for a smooth VR experience in 2020/2024 with the Crystal Light

I have an RTX 4090 + Pimax Crystal Light and am enjoying ca. 45-50 fps in VR (which feels totally smooth and much better than it sounds) mostly GA aircraft and business jets. DLSS4 with QUALITY setting and HIGH to ULTRA in MSFS 2024. 5090 is not required, will give you perhaps 10-20 % higher fps, which is not near enough for me to spend upwards of $3.000 because you can not use any of the 5090's new MultiFrameGen features in VR anyway. If FrameGen or even MultiFrameGen did work in VR, I would get a 5090 in a heartbeat.

Edited March 2, 20251 yr by turbomax

Good to know. Kinda sounds like even dropping to a 40/5080 would risk going below 30fps in 2024?

Honestly I'd love to get a 4090 but all the ones for sale are actually more expensive than the 5090, at least right now, often by $1,000 or more which is ridiculous. I should have broken down and bought the one I saw at Microcenter 3 months ago but I was being cheap.

36 minutes ago, Dillon said:

2024 at this time is a whole other animal

In which direction? 😉

 

1 hour ago, eslader said:

a 40/5080 would risk going below 30fps in 2024?

no, I have never seen 30 fps or below in MSFS 2024 in VR. If you can get a 5090 for less than a 4090 then there is no reason to go with a 4090. the 4090ers are obviously taking advantage of the fact that the 5090s are not available at all.

 

with my HP Reverb G2 fps were higher, naturally. but it shows what you can achieve if you adjust resolution etc:

Edited March 3, 20251 yr by turbomax

That's an interesting comparison because we have the same two headsets. Gives me a lot to think about. Thanks!

58 minutes ago, eslader said:

In which direction? 😉

In smoothness and performance (not to mention a few bugs).  Go check out, 'VR Flightsim Guy' and 'Ave Angels' reporting on the situation. 

For what it's worth. Mine is 4070 and 58003DX. PimaxCrystalLight.

I always set Pimax play to full resolution (4K each eye). DLSS Balanced. Render Preset to Medium. I push the 2 LODs up to 140. I don't have stutters in VR, it's all smooth. Very satisfied, I am (MSFS 2024).

But if you want to run DLSS Quality or DLAA or TAA, And render preset Ultra, and at the same time have full resolution in PImax Play, then you will need better hardware than I have.

If I was buying a new rig now I'd absolutely get a 5090 and 9800x3d with 64 GB RAM.

Us VR people need the highest end rigs anyway.  At least if you want good image clarity and a smooth experience 

If you can, get now a 6090, if not, take a 5090-4090.

I have a 4090 and Pimax Crystal, mostly high settings and getting totally smooth 45 -55 fps in the GA aircraft that I fly. I plan to wait for the next gen GPU after the 5090, newer technology based on 3 nm structures, 5090 is still the same 5 nm process as the 4090, hence only 15-20 % performance increase which is definetely not enough for me to justify some $ 3.000

5090's framegen, let alone multiframegen doesn't do anything for us VR users. unfortunately.

Really sounding like I need to bite the bullet and get a 5090 if they ever become available. I'd wait for the next gen, but I don't know that I really want to have the CL sitting on a shelf for 2+ years until something new comes out, and a 5090 would be a significant improvement over the 3070Ti.

Thanks for the input everyone. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to apply it to a purchase. 😉

 

On 3/11/2025 at 10:35 AM, peloto said:

If you can, get now a 6090, if not, take a 5090-4090.

Why not just recommend a 8090 while you are at it?... 

9 hours ago, PlumCrazy said:

Why not just recommend a 8090 while you are at it?... 

Yes, if you can buy now a 8090, yes, if not a 5090 or 4090.

My hardware is less than the OP, both cpu and gpu. I get clear images and good framerates with my Crystal Light in VR. For VR, I recommend DLSS, that's the key to performance at high resolutions, in VR.

I think the glory of VR is the visuals, and  just about everything I see outside the plane is a little bit sharper and clearer in DLSS compared to TAA.  Except of course the glass screens inside the planes are very substandard in DLSS. So in VR, I fly steam gauges. It's pretty hard for me to turn the tiny dials on glass screens with a mouse in VR anyway.