Would love to hear your opinions on how much better it is specifically in MSFS - the instrument clarity. 
Also if anyone has  F1 

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Edited October 10, 20232 yr by Bozdog

The upgrade from a Q2 is a no brainer large jump in quality. What we really need is a lay-mans Q3 vs G2 comparison of our sims various.

10 hours ago, VeryBumpy said:

The upgrade from a Q2 is a no brainer large jump in quality....

That is not an accurate summary of the situation.

Quest 2 resolution = 1832 × 1920

Quest 3 resolution = 2064 x 2208

Yeah, the quest 3 has better lenses and perhaps slightly better FOV but even the most enthusiastic reviews only rate the Q3 visuals slightly better than the Q2. I think its fair to say that the biggest Q3 improvements are for mixed reality (which wouldn't benefit the MSFS in game experience.

There are already many Q3 owner reviews that are already questioning the worth of the uplift over their Q2

 

Returned mine today after 1 day. Ordered a Pimax crystal to try instead. 

Awful shimmering, brightness, poor quality distance looking. If you only stare in the cockpit, it's great quality within the cockpit. Look out the window and it's mush. I even forced the resolution to its maximum, which helped a bit, but shattered the performance.

I have 7950X and 4090, performance was poor. Tried with and without cable. 

Reminds me of the old HP G2 I had 2 years ago, just without the sweet spot issue.

Here's hoping the Crystal is better. 

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Returned mine today after 1 day. Ordered a Pimax crystal to try instead. 

Awful shimmering, brightness, poor quality distance looking. If you only stare in the cockpit, it's great quality within the cockpit. Look out the window and it's mush. I even forced the resolution to its maximum, which helped a bit, but shattered the performance.

I have 7950X and 4090, performance was poor. Tried with and without cable. 

Reminds me of the old HP G2 I had 2 years ago, just without the sweet spot issue.

Here's hoping the Crystal is better. 

Thanks. Just seen vr flight sim guys 1st impressions. Looks like I will stay with the Q2 for now.  What a shame .🥲

7 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

 

Reminds me of the old HP G2 I had 2 years ago, just without the sweet spot issue.

 

for me, that's actually a great thing to hear 🙂

I kind of gave up too after tonight. Way too much hassle and the results are not even close to be acceptable for VR in MSFS. Pity, since Quest 3 is clearly superior to G2 in nearly every way, only ruined by having no direct video input. 

 

I'm back to my G2 and will wait to see if someone can figure out best and usable settings for Q3 PCVR soon. Otherwise I may return the Q3. I really like it for what it does well, but it's useless for my main purpose.

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by FlyIce

 

Just flew the G2 again. No comparison, I stay with G2. That display port input quality easily beats out everything Quest 3 has. Pity, why doesn't Quest 3 also get a dp port. I'll be happy to pay extra $100 for that feature. 

Also, I'm surprised that I'm not bothered by the much smaller sweet spot in G2 after experienced edge to edge clarity in Quest 3. 

5 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

 

There are plenty of reviews out at the moment that are not being objective and distorting the picture. "Normally I would get microstutters/Lag... but this is way better".... oh yeah? How exactly does replacing a screen improve performance of a sim?

I am not sure what people are expecting? The Quest product is aimed squarely at the standalone market. All the improvements on the quest3 are at aimed at Meta selling more mobile games on their store. Virtually zero effort has gone into PCVR on this device. If you want better flight sim clarity there are already several specific PCVR device availible.

38 minutes ago, flibberflops said:

I am not sure what people are expecting?

Me personally, Nothing. Hence the reason it was worth testing, to see if it was any good. And it wasn't. Case closed for me, off to Crystal to test. 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

Gees I wish the youtube reviewers would learn to fly a chopper and fly it a couple of metres off the ground to do their testing.

How exactly does replacing a screen improve performance of a sim?

This might be influenced by the video compression / decompression performance capabilities between the different headsets 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/meta-quest-3-pc-vr-performance/595900/78

"I tried to get acceptable performance with the Q3 any way possible (Link, AirLink, VD etc.) and could not get rid of nausea-inducing head tracking issues. Until I tried MBucchia’s VirtualDesktop-OpenXR today and finally could fly smoothly! I still have some slight stutters left to fix but I think they are network-related because the VD monitor shows network latency going up when it happens."

Maybe I should give this as one last try: VirtualDesktop-OpenXR (https://github.com/mbucchia/VirtualDesktop-OpenXR/wiki).

I was using VD + SteamVR and it confused the hell out of me, plus the performance and quality were terrible for VR.

 

For the quest 2 and now quest 3 I'm using the occulus app and the occulus tray tool.  I've just started using the vr toolkit as well.  I have the quest 3 at 72 hz at the highest rendering resolution in the occulus app.  In the occulus tray I have SuperSampling at 1.25 and ASW set to 45hz.  FOV (which is a big fps gain) is set to .80 and .70. Using the performance bar in the OTT I'm locked at 36 fps and msfs settings are a mixture of medium high and ultra.   I have a 3090 with an i9-10900k.  I'm using the usbc to connect, not airlink.  Still playing around with the vr toolkit but have the sharpness set to 80 and upped the eye resolution, not sure how this interacts with the tray tool yet.

The lenses in the Quest 3 provide a lot of clarity, no longer need to search for the sweet spot.  The view is crisp and clear in the cockpit and looking outside the window near the aircraft.  Even distances seem clear, especially with the vr toolkit turned on, not 2d level of course but compared to the quest 2, for me, way better.  I may eventually break down and get an Aero or hold out for the next gen premium headsets, for now the quest 3 will suffice.

 

Forgot to mention I'm running in DLSS/Quality mode.

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by slashed2