1 minute ago, GoranM said:

Who said it's not an AA issue?  

I did, see above screenshots.

AA is working, the jaggies are not single pixels that get fixed by AA.

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by mSparks

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The same can be said of MSFS.  2 years post release, they still have a plethora of issues to fix.  It's admirable that you, and others, hold Laminar to such a high standard, that they are expected to push out a final, bug free, stable release in the first version, right after a 3 months early access/release candidate run, but that just won't happen, with any software or any company. 

I don't care about other simulators. Tried MSFS, didn't like it, stayed with x-plane. 

On the other hand, I'll keep mentioning that no one said this should be a bug free release. This isn't even a bug per se, but a poorly implemented feature of lack thereof. 

1 minute ago, mSparks said:

I did, see above screenshots.

AA is working, the jaggies are not single pixels that get fixed by AA.

All I know about that is that LR are going to address it.  The deep trenches of AA are above my paygrade.

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AA is working, the jaggies are not single pixels that get fixed by AA.

AA is working, just poorly, badly and not as expected for a modern game released in 2022.

4 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

I don't care about other simulators. Tried MSFS, didn't like it, stayed with x-plane. 

On the other hand, I'll keep mentioning that no one said this should be a bug free release. This isn't even a bug per se, but a poorly implemented feature of lack thereof. 

So we're circling back to the original problem.  The 1 element.  Poorly implemented AA.

Then the solution is simple.  If it's poorly implemented, and you have valuable and productive feedback, and it bothers you to the point of having to have it fixed asap, report it.  If you don't want to report it, rest assured it will be reported, and/or fixed in a future update.  There's no point going on about it in a forum that Laminar don't come to.

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by GoranM

Just now, GoranM said:

All I know about that is that LR are going to address it.  The deep trenches of AA are above my paygrade.

Same here.

What I'm trying to point out is this isn't a simple "AA isn't working" issue, AA, as far as I have seen is doing exactly what it is designed to do,

Turn

into

something more is going on. The saw teeth on this building for example

Is not aliasing

Its something else we generally don't understand.

 

 

1 minute ago, GoranM said:

There's no point going on about it in a forum that Laminar don't come to.

Yes there is: discussion with others about it.

I am aware this is hard to comprehend for some.

1 minute ago, GoranM said:

Then the solution is simple.  If it's poorly implemented, and you have valuable and productive feedback, and it bothers you to the point of having to have it fixed asap, report it.  If you don't want to report it, rest assured it will be reported, and/or fixed in a future update.  There's no point going on about it in a forum that Laminar don't come to.

I did report it. I'm sure others did.

What's the point of discussing issues? What's the point of discussing the good things too? What's the point of discussing? What's the point of having forums?

3 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

What's the point of discussing issues? What's the point of discussing the good things too? What's the point of discussing? What's the point of having forums?

I don't mind discussing the issue.  It becomes a problem when the discussion turns into a 3 page back and forth.  When all it could be is
"Laminar know about it and they're working on it."

           "Excellent.  Thanks"

"You're welcome!"

When it starts diverging into Laminar's business practises, that's when I smh.  Austin started X-Plane on his own, with about 40 lines of code.  And it's grown ever since.  He's obviously done something right.

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by GoranM

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 It becomes a problem when the discussion turns into a 3 page back and forth.

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However, I don't know what you're seeing to warrant an "ugh and double ugh".

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AA looks perfectly acceptable to me.

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 It’s no different to any other software. 1 element doesn’t define the whole thing. 

 

7 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

 

We’ve all acknowledged the AA needs work, and laminar are working on it. However, I don't know what you're seeing to warrant an "ugh and double ugh".

 

Check the replies after I posted that.  And this.

Please don't be selective.  It loses context.

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by GoranM

14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

Same here.

What I'm trying to point out is this isn't a simple "AA isn't working" issue, AA, as far as I have seen is doing exactly what it is designed to do,

Turn

into

something more is going on. The saw teeth on this building for example

Is not aliasing

Its something else we generally don't understand.

 

 

Fine, we'll call this the "jagged line issue". I have uploaded an album with the building. The photos correspond to the level of AA, from none to 8xMSAA. The jagged lines are there, from no AA to FXAA there seems to be a difference but none after that (at least none that I can see). So either AA simply doesn't do anything beyond FXAA or it's something else. 

2 minutes ago, GoranM said:

We’ve all acknowledged the AA needs work, and laminar are working on it. However, I don't know what you're seeing to warrant an "ugh and double ugh".

 

Check the replies after I posted that.

Please don't be selective.  It loses context.

You could've stopped at

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We’ve all acknowledged the AA needs work, and laminar are working on it.

But you decided on continuing to dissect what he said, and what was his opinion and experience with x-plane.

17 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

What's the point of discussing issues? What's the point of discussing the good things too? What's the point of discussing? What's the point of having forums?

You must be a first time X-Plane user because you have NO IDEA how X-Plane is developed, and you won't even listen to what people are trying to tell you!

You aren't discussing anything; you're just looking to troll.

3 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

Fine, we'll call this the "jagged line issue". I have uploaded an album with the building. The photos correspond to the level of AA, from none to 8xMSAA. The jagged lines are there, from no AA to FXAA there seems to be a difference but none after that (at least none that I can see). So either AA simply doesn't do anything beyond FXAA or it's something else. 

Sorry, it seems that didn't work.

https://imgur.com/a/RBiV4AT