Just now, bogdansrb said:

Then what was the point of the betas? They should've just released b1 as final and call it XP12.00.

Because it’s never been done like that. No software is released like that. Not even operating systems are released like that. Even your smartphone has regular updates. In a perfect world, one would never need updates. But this isn’t a perfect world. 

3 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

this is a major lack of a feature

No amount of post processing is ever going to add more pixels to this building

 

4 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

acceptable to ship in a final, official release.

Words do matter.

This is not the final release. Official, yes… . Bug free? Unfortunately not.

For example, for the v11 run, v11.55 was the final release.

Final as in there won’t be coming further updates and bug fixes. But we can expect several years of those in the v12 run.

1 minute ago, soaring_penguin said:

Words do matter.

This is not the final release. Official, yes… . Bug free? Unfortunately not.

For example, for the v11 run, v11.55 was the final release.

Final as in there won’t be coming further updates and bug fixes. But we can expect several years of those in the v12 run.

See how it says "is now final"? 😄

9 minutes ago, mSparks said:

This screenshot is a good example of why it is not AA related.

Those "jaggies" are not Aliasing, and will not/never be removed by Anti-Aliasing.

IMHO.

One of these has AA off, the other has FXAA. I'll let you guess which is which.

3 minutes ago, soaring_penguin said:

Words do matter.

This is not the final release. Official, yes… . Bug free? Unfortunately not.

For example, for the v11 run, v11.55 was the final release.

Final as in there won’t be coming further updates and bug fixes. But we can expect several years of those in the v12 run.

So words do matter, especially in marketing… 😉 

1 minute ago, bogdansrb said:

Exactly. 12.00 is final. 12.01 is coming, with more fixes. 

5 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Because it’s never been done like that. No software is released like that. Not even operating systems are released like that. Even your smartphone has regular updates. In a perfect world, one would never need updates. But this isn’t a perfect world. 

The point of a final release is to ship a product that is acceptable in quality. This release is acceptable to Laminar because:

1. They had to cash in on Christmas sales

2. There are enough people who consider this the best simulator ever, with all the issues and lack of features included

5 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

One of these has AA off, the other has FXAA. I'll let you guess which is which.

This one

with AA working perfectly

over this one

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Exactly. 12.00 is final. 12.01 is coming, with more fixes. 

I'll add this to my list:

- poor performance - upgrade your PC, this is how x-plane works, you need a 24 core CPU to use only 1/4 of it

- real time weather doesn't work - do you really need it?

- AA doesn't work - it's not really an AA issue

- scenery looks bad - not a scenery simulator

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with AA working perfectly

I'll note this and come back to you when maybe Laminar decides to fix AA. Why would they fix anything that works perfectly, right?

7 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

The point of a final release is to ship a product that is acceptable in quality.

Which it is.  For a first stable release of a new version of the software.  You may disagree, and you're entitled to.  But the fact remains, it was agreed upon in the Slack channel that 12.00 is stable enough to ship as the first stable release of XP12.00.

7 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

1. They had to cash in on Christmas sales

They didn't have to do anything.  If they did it for the Christmas rush, it paid off.  Big time.  They sold 1000 units on Steam in the week leading up to Christmas.  Is it wrong to capitalize on a Christmas rush?

7 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

2. There are enough people who consider this the best simulator ever, with all the issues and lack of features included

The same can be said of MSFS.  2 years post release, they still have a plethora of issues to fix.  It's admirable that you, and others, hold Laminar to such a high standard, that they are expected to push out a final, bug free, stable release in the first version, right after a 3 months early access/release candidate run, but that just won't happen, with any software or any company. 

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by GoranM

3 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

poor performance - upgrade your PC, this is how x-plane works, you need a 24 core CPU to use only 1/4 of it

Now we're straying grossly off topic.  I've posted a solution to this in several forums, including this one. I'm not going to repeat it again.

4 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

real time weather doesn't work - do you really need it?

It works, as of yesterday.

5 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

AA doesn't work - it's not really an AA issue

Who said it's not an AA issue?  

5 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

scenery looks bad - not a scenery simulator

This is so subjective, there's no point in responding to it.  There are many screenshots posted where the scenery looks incredible.

In saying that, if the scenery isn't to your liking, then don't purchase.  We've heard it before.  Many times.  And the response is always the same. If you want scenery, there's another sim that will give you what you want.  Either that, or you can download ortho scenery.

5 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

decides to fix AA.

My point is not that there isn't a problem with jaggies, as Goran has said - that is acknowledged.

My point is that problem is not related to AA.