On 8/7/2021 at 3:49 AM, Aristoteles said:

I checked the BEnq PU3200 32" and it looks incredible but I am afraid my performance might be hurt too much. So, question is, what would be a reasonable monitor upgrade for a 2080 Super? Thanks in advance guys.

I think you're right.  I'm about to install 3080 Ti because my 2070 Super is just on the cusp of not being able to drive my display which is considerably less demanding than the BenQ Ray mentions.  3440x1440 is ~36% less pixels than 4K, but still offers excellent pixel density.  Not as high as 4K, but also as I say the ultra wide aspect ratio I think is favorable for flight simming.  You might consider the same screen I'm using which is the Dell U3415W which is capable of 30Hz and also has Dynamic Contrast, similar to HDR.  Your 2080 Super would be fine as I say I'm on the cusp in fact I can run Ultra everywhere.  I am going to go 3080 Ti because I plan to run LOD out farther than Ultra and increase render scaling a bit as well.  4K puts 35% more demand on your 2080 Super over 3440x1440:

Dell UltraSharp U3415W 34-Inch Curved LED-Lit Monitor – Tech for Geek

But MSFS supports using a lower rendering scale. I think it makes more sense to be future proof and buy a 4K TV/Monitor and then reduce the render scale to match a 1440p performance scenario.

Thanks all answering in this  thread for help. Much appreciated.

Another option if you're concerned about the 2080 super and 4K is to go between 1440p and 4K at the 3840 x 1600 resolution on a 38" monitor. It gives you about 24% more pixels than 3440 x 1440. I use the AW3821DW G-Sync monitor and find it great. I use it with a 2080Ti and run MSFS all on Ultra so a 2080 super should be ok to handle that resolution.

WAIT!

Actually it appears a decent comprise today is a VA panel equipped monitor which I read offers significantly superior blacks and contrast to IPS, though very slightly higher response time and slightly lower viewing angle, neither of which matter for flight simulation.  Samsung is coming out w/ their Micro LED screen TVs, but no PC monitors, and they will be expensive city.  If I had to buy a screen today it would be a curved VA panel screen ~34" in width, 4K would be fine.  Fortunately I don't need a screen so hopefully can hang in thier until Micro LED arrives for PC screens.  They offer the same contrast and pure blacks as OLED w/o the burn-in and degredation risk.

Do some research and see if you can find one at 3440x1440 (remember, native resolution of the textures themselves really matters!) or ultra wide 4K w/ HDR.  IPS was the rage but I think that may not be the case as they also have the worst issue w/ true black of the 3 panel types.

Ok, went ahead and bought a 32 Benq PD3200U. With 3840 x2160 I can consistently maintain 30 frames and the image quality is astonishing, trully amazing. Panoramic views on 4k...and a 2080. Unbelievable. It looks like I went direct to SU10, XD. 

Edited August 10, 20214 yr by Aristoteles

Good for you Aristoteles sounds like a very nice upgrade for you.  Tell me, have you found absolutely ANYTHING wrong w/ 30Hz?  No headaches, seizures, eye strain, nausea and vomiting? Just kidding of course, but this is the usual response from those who insist 30hz is worse than going back to a monochrome CRT in 1972 

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

Good for you Aristoteles sounds like a very nice upgrade for you.  Tell me, have you found absolutely ANYTHING wrong w/ 30Hz?  No headaches, seizures, eye strain, nausea and vomiting? Just kidding of course, but this is the usual response from those who insist 30hz is worse than going back to a monochrome CRT in 1972 

My only headache was the hole in my wallet XD. The monitor comes perfectly calibrated, and colors are...phew. Even the haze from SU5 seems almost gone and terrain looks so crisp i had to remove all sharpening and even with LOD 100 autogen looks gorgeous at a distance. The only difference I notice is when quickly changing views as refresh rate obviously is not super fast. Thanks guys.

27 minutes ago, Aristoteles said:

Ok, went ahead and bought a 32 Benq PD3200U. With 3840 x2160 I can consistently maintain 30 frames and the image quality is astonishing,

Well done for taking my advice. It is a great monitor. 👍

33 minutes ago, Aristoteles said:

Ok, went ahead and bought a 32 Benq PD3200U. With 3840 x2160 I can consistently maintain 30 frames and the image quality is astonishing, trully amazing. Panoramic views on 4k...and a 2080. Unbelievable. It looks like I went direct to SU10, XD. 

I'm assuming you did set vsync to 30Hz, which for me is a case of setting the vsync frames slider to 60?

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

I'm assuming you did set vsync to 30Hz, which for me is a case of setting the vsync frames slider to 60?

I am still figuring out the best way to set everything, to be honest. I just set frames in FS to 30 and everything works great. When I set 30Hz thru Nvidia Experience, everything seems sluggish. I am sure there is stuff I am missing. It´s been 3h with the new toy anyway.

15 minutes ago, Aristoteles said:

I am still figuring out the best way to set everything, to be honest. I just set frames in FS to 30 and everything works great. When I set 30Hz thru Nvidia Experience, everything seems sluggish. I am sure there is stuff I am missing. It´s been 3h with the new toy anyway.

For me with P3D I set fps to unlimited with VSync enabled. In Nvidia Control Panel Set your resolution to 3840*2160 in the PC section further down and in the refresh rate drop down you should see 60Hz and 30Hz. Choose the latter.

Your frame rate will be pegged to the refresh rate of the monitor naturally rather than anything forced in other software. It should be the same in MSFS as P3D hopefully.

10 minutes ago, Aristoteles said:

I am still figuring out the best way to set everything, to be honest. I just set frames in FS to 30 and everything works great. When I set 30Hz thru Nvidia Experience, everything seems sluggish. I am sure there is stuff I am missing. It´s been 3h with the new toy anyway.

My proven tactic for P3D & MSFS is to not use Nvidia Control Panel (I assume you mean) for anything except three things, otherwise it's all default general settings:

1.  Use Resolution to change to 30Hz.

2.  Change Low Latency in 3D settings to Ultra--gives ~12% increase in GPU performance w/ no untoward effects.

3.  Desktop color settings to dial in whatever looks best.

For MSFS, you would turn Vsync on, and set the frames slider at 60.  Don't ask me why, but I think this is because you must have a value over 30, to get Vsync to work.

For P3D, set frames slider to Unlimited.

So key for this, is NOT to set frames to 30 in NCP.  Try it and see how you like it.  I'm guessing this is also how Ray uses his BenQ.

Wow, I learned something critically different in MSFS that can't be said for P3D:  you CAN set monitor refresh to 60hz, AND set frame rate w/ vsync on to 30 in MSFS, and there is absolutely no adverse impact in GPU/CPU utilization!  This is not possible in P3D because if you cap frames w/ the frame limiter, there are untoward effects that are not happening in MSFS, which demands you set the frame slider to UNLIMITED in P3D, as Ray points out.  I don't believe Ray uses MSFS, but if you do Ray, you have to try this it's a game changer.  Not because I can see ANY real difference between 30 and 60Hz, but because it means you do not need a 30hz capable screen for MSFS.

Cheers!

@Noel, I don’t have it and no immediate plans to buy it.

But a good find and consider adding it to the Tips & Tricks subforum.