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Captain Sim Releases 737 Classic for P3D

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Excellent, thank you.

 

I went ahead and got the 757 and the 300 expansion. Flew two full flights with them. Absolutely perfect. Nailed the autoland on the first one, the second one, I flew a manual approach. This is an excellent addition to my hangar. 

 

I just want to know one thing before I get the 767 - Captain II version is out. I know they are working on Captain III 767. Do those things come as a free upgrade (or at least at a discount) to the Captain II releases? Or are those full purchases. If a Captain III 767 is coming later this year, I don't want to have to buy it again if I pay $99 for a 767 now. 

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On 4/9/2021 at 9:56 AM, cmorg said:

If you're willing to learn, it's really quite charming, elegant, and simple.  I just picked up the CS L-1011, and incidentally the CS 707 for FSX, the L-1011 seems to have a functioning CIVA, although I've yet to put it through its paces, and I'm way in over my head with the 707.  I got the hang of the Delco Carousel INS from the FJS 72 and 73 in X-Plane, and my wife is always very impressed when she sees me using my TI-89 calculator from calculus class in high school and college just to convert lat/long coordinates from one format to another.  VOR-to-VOR is also quite fun, but I'm struggling with how to effectively plan a VOR-to-VOR flight, there's no SimBrief for that type of flight planning as far as I'm aware, and I'm not educated enough to do it myself with any degree of confidence that I've done it the way that they used to.

Does the CIVA unit work in P3D4.5 and 5? Does the ADEU (Automatic Data Entry Unit) work as well?

Cheers

Steve Hall

On 4/9/2021 at 2:43 PM, BostonJeremy77 said:

I just want to know one thing before I get the 767 - Captain II version is out. I know they are working on Captain III 767. Do those things come as a free upgrade (or at least at a discount) to the Captain II releases? Or are those full purchases. If a Captain III 767 is coming later this year, I don't want to have to buy it again if I pay $99 for a 767 now. 

They are not working on Captain III 767 anytime soon. The Captain II 767 is essentially the 767 that'll be out for a couple of years before CS decides to make a new one. They haven't even finished the -200 or -300F expansions for the Captain II 767. 

But FYI, whenever CS does make a new product, you will not get any discounts for it (at least that has been the case up till now).

On 4/9/2021 at 3:16 PM, cowpatz said:

Does the CIVA unit work in P3D4.5 and 5? Does the ADEU (Automatic Data Entry Unit) work as well?

CIVA does work, but the ADEU sort of works as well although it's not like the FSLabs Concorde. In order to "import" a flightplan in the INS you would use the P3D default flight planner, load a flight, then the flightplan will automatically appear in the INS. If the flightplan has more than 9 waypoints, the INS should load the next subsequent waypoints automatically (though I don't remember that well, but I think that is the case). 

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Are CaptainSim in some sort of feud with PMDG? Or are they just insecure? I just noticed while posting a technical question about their 767 (does it auto-tune ILS frequencies once you have entered the ILS approach the same way PMDG’s 737/747/777 do it) and I immediately noticed that their forum changed “PMDG’s” to “another company’s”... Good god, people. It’s not like your are even competing much - you have completely different Boeing aircraft than what PMDG offers (with a possible exception of the 777)... What’s with the wording changes? It’s not a huge deal, but definitely made me roll my eyes a bit. 

I guess I am gonna ask the same two questions here. 
 

Does CS 737/757/767 auto-tune frequencies if you have an ILS approach selected in DEP/ARR? I was still in cruise and manually dialed it just to make sure it happens but the auto mode didn’t seem to have it tuned? Maybe I was too far out? At what point does it auto-tune (if it does that even)?

 

Second question. This only happens on the 767 for me, but it keeps overspeeding in cruise as soon as it’s done climbing. Whether it’s in VNAV mode (and the FMC has .801 as the speed), or even if I switch it to SPD mode and manually dial in .80 and press the selector... it doesn’t adjust itself back. It keeps going into .90 and the only way for me to prevent overspeeding is to deploy the speedbrakes and fly the rest of cruise on speedbrakes. It definitely doesn’t seem right. I tried everything I could think of - setting the speed, setting power level to CRZ manually. Nothing works. This has been my frustration with the 767.

7 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

I guess I am gonna ask the same two questions here. 
 

Does CS 737/757/767 auto-tune frequencies if you have an ILS approach selected in DEP/ARR? I was still in cruise and manually dialed it just to make sure it happens but the auto mode didn’t seem to have it tuned? Maybe I was too far out? At what point does it auto-tune (if it does that even)?

 

Second question. This only happens on the 767 for me, but it keeps overspeeding in cruise as soon as it’s done climbing. Whether it’s in VNAV mode (and the FMC has .801 as the speed), or even if I switch it to SPD mode and manually dial in .80 and press the selector... it doesn’t adjust itself back. It keeps going into .90 and the only way for me to prevent overspeeding is to deploy the speedbrakes and fly the rest of cruise on speedbrakes. It definitely doesn’t seem right. I tried everything I could think of - setting the speed, setting power level to CRZ manually. Nothing works. This has been my frustration with the 767.

I don't have the newest B737, so I can't speak to it's behavior. The B757/67 do have a functioning auto tune for the ILS. You did not mention a particular airport...is it possible there may be an ILS issue with the airport you're trying to land at?

The auto throttle is one of my pet peeves with the CS B757/67 as it seems to have a mind of it's own. In my case, the auto-throttle has a tendency to (visually) move the throttles independent of the set speed. I have tried the suggestion to never use the "Shift-E-1, Shift-E-2, etc" but that hasn't made a difference. What I have found, is when I turn off the auto-throttle and move the throttles to idle and back to full throttle and re-apply the auto-throttle it will always reset for the balance of the flight. This quirk only happens with the CS B757/67 for me, but, with the work-around it doesn't bother me as much anymore.

2 hours ago, rmeier said:

I don't have the newest B737, so I can't speak to it's behavior. The B757/67 do have a functioning auto tune for the ILS. You did not mention a particular airport...is it possible there may be an ILS issue with the airport you're trying to land at?

The auto throttle is one of my pet peeves with the CS B757/67 as it seems to have a mind of it's own. In my case, the auto-throttle has a tendency to (visually) move the throttles independent of the set speed. I have tried the suggestion to never use the "Shift-E-1, Shift-E-2, etc" but that hasn't made a difference. What I have found, is when I turn off the auto-throttle and move the throttles to idle and back to full throttle and re-apply the auto-throttle it will always reset for the balance of the flight. This quirk only happens with the CS B757/67 for me, but, with the work-around it doesn't bother me as much anymore.

I never use keyboard shortcuts anyway, but yesterday an interesting thing happened. Late in cruise when I was stable at .80 with speedbrakes deployed about half way, I wanted to check if it would overspeed now. I switched from SPD mode to VNAV and gradually reduced the speedbrakes. The aircraft started to decrease throttles visually with the airbrakes and maintained proper speed. Until the end it was smooth sailing. 

 

I don't think the ILS issue is airport related - I tuned manually and performed an ILS approach with Cat 3 autoland. As soon as I was on runway, I hit the Auto Tune button and it immediately switched my frequency to something else (NOT the one I landed on...) weird. 

  • 2 months later...

I've noticed Captainsim released v 1.0 which I assume means it's out of beta.

Can someone comment on the progress done on it?

Were the main issue fixed?

 

Thanks!

Shom

 

MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs

14 minutes ago, Shomron said:

I've noticed Captainsim released v 1.0 which I assume means it's out of beta.

Can someone comment on the progress done on it?

Were the main issue fixed?

 

Thanks!

Haven't tested yet, but seems on the changelog, tons of bugs I reported on their forum are not all fixed, some major one have been done though.

Quite confused it got out of beta so soon.

Just hope there would be more versions down the line.

1 hour ago, C2615 said:

Haven't tested yet, but seems on the changelog, tons of bugs I reported on their forum are not all fixed, some major one have been done though.

Quite confused it got out of beta so soon.

Just hope there would be more versions down the line.

My main issue is the aircraft pitch during approach which seems too high, there is no indication anything related to flight dynamics was fixed

Shom

 

MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs

Now testing it and at middle of cruising, most the problem, as it's not shown in changelog, are still there.

The one claimed to be fixed, master caution related issue still have tones of bugs in it...

On the good side, I just made a very limited Improved climb take-off with data from realworld Boeing Performance Software. and the CS's carft seems spot on the taking off run.

I have had a lot of fun with the .302 and am downloading the 1.0 now, The issue that bugs me the most is the strobe light in the cockpit (hope that's fixed). The rest is the usual stuff with Captain Sim--by now everybody knows if it ticks their boxes or induces attacks of moral outrage. I am very happy to see the 737 Classic back in production. I enjoyed the old Wilco version and it plugs a gap in in P3Dv.5.1 (which I'm happy with) that only the Maddog sort of filled: a scrappy little short-legged airliner of a certain age. But I've always preferred the ambience of CS products and tricking them out with mods and products like Accu-Feel. You are NEVER going to get a PMDG airplane out of Captain Sim. They're a survey company. Personally, I wish they would go back to their niche of classics, but everybody wants glass now. (No, even I didn't buy their MSFS2020 "777" but maybe it will finance finishing what they already have in P3D.)

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Shomron said:

My main issue is the aircraft pitch during approach which seems too high, there is no indication anything related to flight dynamics was fixed

I noticed the pitch is about 5 degree when approacing (about sea level,50t and VREF135, VAPP140)

It's a bit higher than FCTM's 3~4 degree, and actually quite noticeable when in cockpit view. By review my QAR, I actually go faster to 145kts and get about 4 degree whit final manual flying. at that speed, I should have pitch about 2.2 according to QRH data.

 

Still, it's much better than my old 50N+Feelthere 733 in FS9 which pitches up to like 7~8 degree and I actually takes hours of test fly and tweaking to make it more or less right.

That's also overall my feeling on CS733, not something PMDG like, bug enough to replace yet another aircraft that keeps my FS9 installed.

3 hours ago, Tim_Capps said:

Personally, I wish they would go back to their niche of classics, but everybody wants glass now. 

I also much prefer the classics. But like you said, for some reason everyone likes the ‘glass’. It’s easy I suppose. Less work as the kids today can’t actually operate anything remotely complex. 
 

  • 6 months later...

I bought the CS 737, 757, and 767 in the $9.99 sale recently.

I'm now realising exactly why everyone has been saying they are incredibly buggy, with Captain Sim seemingly offering zero support of any kind.

On the 737, with VNAV active on descent, it massively overspeeds the aircraft and puts it into a nose down dive. I'm sure there may be a workaround such as disconnecting the autothrottle or suchlike, or not using VNAV, or any kind of autopilot during descent.

Are other people who are using the 737 experiencing this, and is there a workaround you are using to stop it happening?

 

Calum Watt

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