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CPU spikes to 100%?

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I’ve been generally thrilled with performance after turning on hyper threading and dialing back my i7 6700k overclock to 4.4 GHz, but there’s one remaining annoyance: from time to time my CPU usage, which is normally around 50-60%, shoots up to 100% for about 5 seconds (with my fans spooling up as the temperature spikes, although not above 80C) and then goes back down. While this happens FPS goes from a smooth 60 FPS in GA aircraft down to a stuttery mess in maybe the teens, and then recovers.

Hard to pin down exactly what it is — time compression makes it happen more often, so seems like it’s probably related to terrain loading. Hills/mountains also seem to correlate with it more often than really flat terrain. Sometimes it doesn’t happen for 30 minutes, sometimes it happens every 5 minutes.

Anyone else seeing this? Any idea how to mitigate this? Is this just something Asobo have to patch to make CPU load more even?

James

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I had this before, resolved by disabling the rolling cache in the Data settings.

7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber 

44 minutes ago, honanhal said:

I’ve been generally thrilled with performance after turning on hyper threading and dialing back my i7 6700k overclock to 4.4 GHz, but there’s one remaining annoyance: from time to time my CPU usage, which is normally around 50-60%, shoots up to 100% for about 5 seconds (with my fans spooling up as the temperature spikes, although not above 80C) and then goes back down. While this happens FPS goes from a smooth 60 FPS in GA aircraft down to a stuttery mess in maybe the teens, and then recovers.

Hard to pin down exactly what it is — time compression makes it happen more often, so seems like it’s probably related to terrain loading. Hills/mountains also seem to correlate with it more often than really flat terrain. Sometimes it doesn’t happen for 30 minutes, sometimes it happens every 5 minutes.

Anyone else seeing this? Any idea how to mitigate this? Is this just something Asobo have to patch to make CPU load more even?

James

Did it look like this?

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4 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

I had this before, resolved by disabling the rolling cache in the Data settings.

Thanks I am trying this now...

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

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Yes, it does look like that. I’ve already disabled the rolling cache, though, so that’s not the issue.

James

28 minutes ago, honanhal said:

Yes, it does look like that. I’ve already disabled the rolling cache, though, so that’s not the issue.

James

Yea, I just tried disabling and deleting rolling cache, relaunched the sim and same thing. Every 5 mins or so I see a spike for a few seconds...then back to normal good performance...

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

37 minutes ago, honanhal said:

Yes, it does look like that. I’ve already disabled the rolling cache, though, so that’s not the issue.

James

So you want to hear something odd? I use the task manager to monitor CPU and GPU for testing. When the spike happens, if I have the resource manager or task manager on top of the sim, even when the CPU is spiked, I don't lose frames and I can pan around freely without stutter. If I click into MSFS while spiked, I drop to 17-25 fps, alt-tab back to resource manager, back to 30 fps...how odd.

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

So, what's more, if I set the sim to LOW settings across the board, it still happens...

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

8 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

So you want to hear something odd? I use the task manager to monitor CPU and GPU for testing. When the spike happens, if I have the resource manager or task manager on top of the sim, even when the CPU is spiked, I don't lose frames and I can pan around freely without stutter. If I click into MSFS while spiked, I drop to 17-25 fps, alt-tab back to resource manager, back to 30 fps...how odd.

Sounds to me like you would benefit from the processor scheduling tweak to prioritize background apps in Win 10.

https://reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/idmdqq/update_msfs_2020_stuttering_when_window_focused/

Dont forget to change it back when not flying.

3 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

So, what's more, if I set the sim to LOW settings across the board, it still happens...

Is HT enabled, heard it helps

I7 10700K 16GB 3600MHZ RTX3080FE

Is Live weather enabled when this is happening?  I wonder if it might have something to do with the weather updating.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
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Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
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PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Changing his processor scheduling will probably bandaid this since he’s not experiencing stutter with another window than MSFS in focus. If it would be a lack of hyperthreading or issues with weather causing this it wouldn’t matter what window he has in focus. It would be bad anyhow. 
 

Check my reddit link above.

27 minutes ago, TheRandomGuy said:

Changing his processor scheduling will probably bandaid this since he’s not experiencing stutter with another window than MSFS in focus. If it would be a lack of hyperthreading or issues with weather causing this it wouldn’t matter what window he has in focus. It would be bad anyhow. 
 

Check my reddit link above.

Thanks, I had read about this, but the symptoms didn't align with mine. Anyhow, I gave it a go. It does somewhat improve FPS in-game when the spikes happen. So, the CPU spikes still exist, but with the 'background tasks' tweak enabled, I now only drop a few FPS instead of 10-ish. So before this 'fix' I fell to about 20 fps for the 5 seconds of the spike every 5 mins or so. Now, I only go down to 27 fps, but the stutter is still present. I then tried setting the priority for the flightsimulator.exe process to Low as also suggested, but that had no impact.

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

45 minutes ago, Bilal2104 said:

Is HT enabled, heard it helps

Thanks, but the 9th gen i5 and i7 don't have HT, so no dice on that approach.

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

41 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Is Live weather enabled when this is happening?  I wonder if it might have something to do with the weather updating.

It was, but just tested this as well and the CPU spikes appear even when set to the Clear Skies theme...

Thanks for all the suggestions...this is pretty odd.

5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT

If you have Process Lasso or another utility that allows changing the process priorities, it might prove interesting to elevate MSFS to "high" from "normal" and see how that affects the anomaly. 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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