Hi all,

I purchased yesterday FSGlobal2010 mesh product and after having troubles loading and installing it, I made a flight LEMG-EPWA wit PMDG 777 (SP1).

 

 

 

 

I just couldn't find any tracks of FSG2010 in my scenery library... Something wrong in my installation?

 

Petteri Pulkkinen

EFNU

Petteri, if you have a folder FSGX2010 on your root of the drive you told the installer to send it to, AND, you have all the continent sub-folders you told the installer to install...then you have a successful installation. Fire up FSX or P3D and look in the Scenery Library..... scroll down to where you would see your VECTOR (if you have that..) entries...and all your FS Global continent entries will be just below those.  I suggest you un-check any Continent that you will not anticipate to fly in for let's say in the next three days of FSX usage. That way you will save VAS usage...and the sim will load faster. For instance, at the moment in both FSX and P3D...I have only the boxes checked for North America, Oceania (for Hawaii), and Europe. I will check active the other continents in the FSX session that I intend to fly over them....  

How does FS Global compare to FSGnesis NextMap?

Sesquashtoo,

 

Thank you for the advice regarding installing FS Global.  I'm on the 4th (of 6) download now.  You have always been a real help to me...and to others on this forum.  Believe me, I appreciate it.  Looks like a little challenge in the install, but with your instructions, it should go OK when I finish these massive files.

 

Stan

You're most welcome Stan.  Stan, I have a few installation suggestions for you, to make things easier, than they were on me...lol  Here goes:

 

ONLY use WinZIP to unzip all of the six files that you downloaded from the Flight Sim Store.  

 

If you have TWO drives...unzip the download files into a folder on the drive that DOES NOT CONTAIN your target:   FSX, or P3D.   This will make your system run less hard, and it will be installing from one drive to another, than one drive parsing copy and write intervals.  

 

After you see the folder FSGS2010 on the drive you directed the installer to write to, and you have checked to see if there are the continent sub-folders in it...do NOT move this folder from this location, like if you had wanted to move it to the Addon Scenery Folder within your FSX directory. Don't do that!  The installer program wrote files to FSX and/or P3D...that POINTS to the folder on the root level.  Just know that you will never delete or move this folder...and your FSX and/or P3D mesh installation will always be available.  I

 

I suggest that once you also have finished with the installer...zip that folder. Then...put that Zip File onto a back-up drive.  I also suggest that you Zip the FSGS2010 folder as well..and also place that on the same archive drive, for if you would ever corrupt that folder, or delete it by accident. Remember...that folder IS the entire Pilot's Global Mesh installation.  If you ever screwed up...you would only have to unzip that folder to the same drive you had it...and you are back in business in a few moments....  Just some suggestions....   Oh, one more...go into your Scenery Library, and un-check the continents you most likely won't fly over in the next week or so...to save VAS bandwidth.and sim load times.  You can always check them active, just before you set up a flight for that continent. It makes no sense to have all of them constantly active and eating up VAS limits....   Happy flying, Stan!

 

Mitch 

 

 

Petteri, if you have a folder FSGX2010 on your root of the drive you told the installer to send it to, AND, you have all the continent sub-folders you told the installer to install...then you have a successful installation. Fire up FSX or P3D and look in the Scenery Library..... scroll down to where you would see your VECTOR (if you have that..) entries...and all your FS Global continent entries will be just below those.  I suggest you un-check any Continent that you will not anticipate to fly in for let's say in the next three days of FSX usage. That way you will save VAS usage...and the sim will load faster. For instance, at the moment in both FSX and P3D...I have only the boxes checked for North America, Oceania (for Hawaii), and Europe. I will check active the other continents in the FSX session that I intend to fly over them....  

 

Mitch,

thanks for your post! I looked in the lower part of scen library as I know the mesh layers lay down there, but no signs of FSGlobal. I made a reinstall over the existing one today morning and and now the library entries were in the right place. Thanks for the tip to save VAS.. that seems to be problem time and time again..

 

 

Petteri

Well, I will chime in.

 

I have all the FSGenesis mesh as a previous Galaxy Lifetime member.

 

The 10m mesh for the USA is good and there has been an attempt to remove the plateau efffect by the developer in the V2 version. However, not all airports (obviously) are done so it still happens. For USA, outside of FTX regions, I decided I could live with the standard FSX 38m mesh and save the hard drive space so its no longer installed.

 

I also had the 19m Canada, Mexico and Carribean mesh. - Same deal as above, now removed.

 

Purchased as a small fee the NextMap Europe bundle - great mesh, same deal as above now removed.

 

So, what did I settle with?

 

In the end i only have installed the FSGenesis FSX World mesh which is 76m (alps at 19m). Its not the highest resolution but covers, Africa, Europe, Asia, South America and the Carribean.

 

Its a notable increase over the default FSX mesh around the world (US excepted which is already 38m) , its small install size (about 3G) and the fact I dont have to worry about airports on plateaus makes it a good compromise IMHO.

"In the end i only have installed the FSGenesis FSX World mesh which is 76m (alps at 19m). Its not the highest resolution but covers, Africa, Europe, Asia, South America and the Carribean."

 

Good price $19 ... but for FSX only (not P3D).

"In the end i only have installed the FSGenesis FSX World mesh which is 76m (alps at 19m). Its not the highest resolution but covers, Africa, Europe, Asia, South America and the Carribean."

 

Good price $19 ... but for FSX only (not P3D).

 

Thanks for the info. Tempted to buy this as it's excellent value although still not happy with FSGenesis removing my old download links....grrr

Thanks for the info. Tempted to buy this as it's excellent value although still not happy with FSGenesis removing my old download links....grrr

 

 

They did the same to me and I bugged them until i got them back.

 

There was zero warning from them that this would happen. I asked for at least one download of all my previous files.

How long does it take to download FSGlobal2010?

 

And, is the FSGlobal2010 FS9 version included in the download?

 

How many ZIP files in the download?

Are the ZIP files small enough to be Backed up to user CDs (like 4GB CDs)?

"In the end i only have installed the FSGenesis FSX World mesh which is 76m (alps at 19m). Its not the highest resolution but covers, Africa, Europe, Asia, South America and the Carribean."

 

Good price $19 ... but for FSX only (not P3D).

 

If you have Estonia tool it works in P3D - I am using it works great

Rich,

 

I do not have Estonia.

 

So, was thinking about the FSGlobal2010 (download or CD?).

How long does it take to download FSGlobal2010?

 

And, is the FSGlobal2010 FS9 version included in the download?

 

How many ZIP files in the download?

Are the ZIP files small enough to be Backed up to user CDs (like 4GB CDs)?

With high-speed cable, each of the SIX (6)  4.0GB parts took me about 15 minutes each, and this is only for FSX and both versions of P3D. It all depends truly on the traffic accessing The Flight Sim Store.  It could go in your session, faster...or of course slower per part of the total ZIP file.

 

Is it worth the time, and install?

 

Answer:  Every flight since, in FSX or P3D says an enthusiastic "Yes!"    ^_^

With high-speed cable, each of the SIX (6)  4.0GB parts took me about 15 minutes each, and this is only for FSX and both versions of P3D. It all depends truly on the traffic accessing The Flight Sim Store.  It could go in your session, faster...or of course slower per part of the total ZIP file.

 

Ok, that is fast. I have HD cable.

 

Is it possible to pick the download you want ?.. like I do not have P3D ver1 .. just ver 2.2

Does the purchase include the FS9 version? I think the FS9 version is only if CDs are purchased?

Ok, that is fast. I have HD cable.

 

Is it possible to pick the download you want ?.. like I do not have P3D ver1 .. just ver 2.2

Does the purchase include the FS9 version? I think the FS9 version is only if CDs are purchased?

This download is only for FSX and P3D. Not for FS9.  At install, the installer will ask you what you want to install it for....for FSX, for P3D v1.x or for P3D 2.x  So, being that I have both FSX and P3D, I just started the install for FSX, and when that finished, I ran the installer again, and highlighted from the drop down menu, P3D 2.x, and it then on the second pass installed into that sim.  It works fabulous in both...

 

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I have a question for those that have already had this product, before my thread date...

 

Is Hawaii part of North  America, or Oceania?

I have both FSGenesis (all of the pre-19meter Next stuff), and the 3 Global Ultimate's on separate rigs. There may be some differences between the 2 in different parts of the world but I have never seen anything visually in either that I would call a definitive reason to go with one or the other. I'm basically a low and slow flyer and for me the ideal flight plan runs 2 to 3 hours with a 12 to 15 different A/P's visited during the flight. Takeoffs and landings are the fun part, along with mountain canyon running. If I remember correctly FSGenesis for the US (lower 48) is a 10meter mesh that had some of the airport issues manually massaged by the original developer to compensate for some discrepancies, could be wrong on that however.

 

I bought the Ultimate series Europe- Africa DVDs in December  2011, for $60US + $5 shipping from PCAviator US and got the Ultimate Americas DVDs for free, that was special deal I couldn't pass up, especially as I was planning on an Orbx dedicated box when I rehabbed the one rig. I picked up the Ultimate Asia- Oceania DVD box set in June of 2013 for $45US plus shipping also at PCAUS. The 18 or so DVDs for world coverage installed flawlessly but installing all 3 was a full day, 12 hours worth of installation. Even with an SSD.

 

I always buy on DVDs whenever possible especially for a total install size of 104 or 105GB. No way I would do this anyway but on disc, even with a download manager.

 

One really big operational plus I see is FSGlobal automatically places entries in the scenery library that can be ticked or unticked, a help when your seeing something screwy with the mesh and you want to deactivate FSGlobal and see how it is with default or Orbx full fat regional mesh's. The FSGenesis can also be installed in such a way that it will end up with entries in the scenery library but I never felt comfortable that I would get that dance done correctly so for me FSGlobaL was a better all around solution. 

 

Both have their pluses and minuses, aside from some runway elevation issues. Lakes or ponds in sink holes or with sinkholes in the middle of them (South America), or on top of little volcanoes (for the far eastern northern coastline of Norway). But from my experience the number of things right so far out number the number of things wrong by a landslide. The higher the accuracy of the mesh the greater chance for discrepancies with FSX. Unless it is a Devils Mountain type runway plateau don't concern myself too much about it. I think many of the worst issues are not just because of the flat runway requirements of FSX, but also the  inaccuracies in the few source materials available to create these mesh's from.

 

Thanks Frank.  This is exactly what I needed to read as I have all of the FS Genesis stuff that I purchased several years ago.  Looks like there is no need to change.