January 28Jan 28 Hey all, From my understanding, 12.3 includes Terrain Radar natively along with weather radar. Do I still need the old plugin? I believe the new one was incorporated for some airliners? I believe Zibo, Toliss, FlightFactor? I think those are main ones. Not sure about the Rotate jets. Any info? I can't seem to find anything on the web about this. Any help would be appreciated. Apologies if the question has already been answered elsewhere.
January 28Jan 28 3 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said: Hey all, From my understanding, 12.3 includes Terrain Radar natively along with weather radar. Do I still need the old plugin? I believe the new one was incorporated for some airliners? I believe Zibo, Toliss, FlightFactor? I think those are main ones. Not sure about the Rotate jets. Any info? I can't seem to find anything on the web about this. Any help would be appreciated. Apologies if the question has already been answered elsewhere. Removed it ages ago, and I doubt it works correctly anyway since xplane changed the weather radar works
January 28Jan 28 Author So... removed the Terrain Radar plugin. Doing a Zibo flight (latest version 21), and there is no terrain radar. Pressing TERR on FO's side does not even give the blue indication of TERR on the screen. I don't think they implemented it if the terrain radar was part of XP 12.3. Am I even wrong about it? I thought I read that in the changelog that it was also implemented natively along with the weather radar.
January 28Jan 28 14 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said: So... removed the Terrain Radar plugin. Doing a Zibo flight (latest version 21), and there is no terrain radar. Pressing TERR on FO's side does not even give the blue indication of TERR on the screen. I don't think they implemented it if the terrain radar was part of XP 12.3. Am I even wrong about it? I thought I read that in the changelog that it was also implemented natively along with the weather radar. There are many videos on youtube showing showing the zibo radar implementation, every update is tested live. Make sure you have latest zibomod. Edited January 28Jan 28 by mjrhealth
January 28Jan 28 Have not run Zibo's 737 with the terrain radar plugin for years now and do not miss it at all. The default WXR's "Map" mode does the trick just fine for me, if necessary. 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
January 28Jan 28 It's not "terrain radar". It's an approximation of an enhanced ground proximity warning system (EGPWS). An actual terrain radar, mostly used on military aircraft, paints the ground with a focused radar beam and displays the return, and the display you get is MUCH different than the color terrain displays depicted in the sim. For example actual terrain radar masks out/blanks distant terrain features located behind terrain in the foreground, the display is affected by altitude, beam power/angle/width, etc. EGPWS uses the aircraft's GPS-derived 3D position and movement vector along with a digital terrain map stored in the avionics to synthesize a terrain display relative to the acft position and movement. The terminology, like the actual devices, is not interchangeable. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 29Jan 29 The "Terrain Radar" plugin mentioned above is in fact an add-on for EGPWS, AFAIK it's still needed for EGPWS TERR display and VSD in Zibo. The Weather radar in zibo 4.04+ is using new XP12.3 radar and hence with MAP return function, but as Bob said, it's not same as "Terrain Radar" plugin's EGPWS function. IIRC same on Toliss Airbuses. Default A330 and 738 uses new default EGPWS. Rotate MD11 also uses default EGPWS, but if you switch it's WXR to MAP mode it also uses that EGPWS, not actual radar return even if you mod the new 12.3 radar in.
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