February 27, 20233 yr toms hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-cpu-review/6 Edited February 27, 20233 yr by westman http://
February 27, 20233 yr At 4K (where it matters 😆 ) looks like nearly a tie. Slip in some faster memory for the 13900K and it's a win for Intel. Edited February 27, 20233 yr by odourboy [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 27, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, odourboy said: At 4K (where it matters 😆 ) looks like nearly a tie. Slip in some faster memory for the 13900K and it's a win for Intel. On a GPU-bound scenario, sure. The X3D still may have an edge in populated hubs, though. Based on different reviews, I will probably wait until the 7800X3D is released to see how things play out. Frame Generation has given such a boost to my fps on big airports, that I might postpone an upgrade indefinitely. PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
February 27, 20233 yr 15 minutes ago, odourboy said: At 4K (where it matters 😆 ) looks like nearly a tie. Slip in some faster memory for the 13900K and it's a win for Intel. Well, which GPU was used for those benchmarks? I mean, roughly 90 FPS in FullHD? Those graphs look like GPU limited already in 1080P to be honest... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
February 27, 20233 yr 25 minutes ago, AnkH said: Well, which GPU was used for those benchmarks? I mean, roughly 90 FPS in FullHD? Those graphs look like GPU limited already in 1080P to be honest... They used an RTX 4090. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 27, 20233 yr Interesting, I would never have thought that regarding the FPS number they get in FullHD... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
February 27, 20233 yr Just now, AnkH said: Interesting, I would never have thought that regarding the FPS number they get in FullHD... Gaming benchmarks on the previous X3D processor suggested the cache advantages seemed to diminish at higher resolutions (don't ask me why) so I don't find this result too surprising. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 27, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, odourboy said: Gaming benchmarks on the previous X3D processor suggested the cache advantages seemed to diminish at higher resolutions (don't ask me why) so I don't find this result too surprising. I do, irrespective of the cache, 89 FPS for a 4090 in FullHD is rather low, especially because the 1440p result then is 92 FPS suddenly. Talking about the 13900K... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
February 27, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, AnkH said: I do, irrespective of the cache, 89 FPS for a 4090 in FullHD is rather low, especially because the 1440p result then is 92 FPS suddenly. Talking about the 13900K... I see your point. 13900k looks like it was being held back, which puts all the results in question. Need more independent test results! Edited February 27, 20233 yr by odourboy [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 27, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, GCBraun said: frame Generation has given such a boost to my fps on big airports, that I might postpone an upgrade indefinitely. exactly my thinking, or wait it out until Ryzen 8000x3D which supposedly is closer than it may seem in your rear mirror, with another 30% performance boost over the 7900x3D. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
February 27, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, odourboy said: Slip in some faster memory for the 13900K and it's a win for Intel. "Enabling the EXPO memory profile brings our memory speeds from the stock DDR5-5200 to Ryzen’s sweet spot at DDR5-6000, which yields less than a 1% improvement in performance." https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-cpu-review/6 https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-review?page=2 Imagine: Ryzen 7900x3D + RTX 4090 with FrameGeneration set to ON. the above test was DX11, Ultra settings, without FrameGeneration and still 90 fps 😀 I Edited February 27, 20233 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
February 27, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, turbomax said: "Enabling the EXPO memory profile brings our memory speeds from the stock DDR5-5200 to Ryzen’s sweet spot at DDR5-6000, which yields less than a 1% improvement in performance." https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-cpu-review/6 My point was Intel's memory controller is acknowledged as superior to AMD and can hand memory speeds that AMD can't touch (eg. 8000 ddr5 is out now). In these benchmarks, the 13900k is being held back by using the same memory as the 7950x3d 'to be fair'. But consumers are not bound by these fairness constraints. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 28, 20233 yr On 2/27/2023 at 6:28 PM, odourboy said: Intel's memory controller is acknowledged as superior to AMD and can hand memory speeds that AMD can't touch (eg. 8000 ddr5 is out now). not sure that matters for MSFS for the AMD x3D versions when code can run so much faster in cache memory than in external slower main memory. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
February 28, 20233 yr 11 minutes ago, turbomax said: not sure that matters for MSFS for the AMD x3D versions when code can run so much faster in cache memory than in external slower main memory. The cache size is about 2% of the ram required to load MSFS so faster ram has got to provide some benefit. Otherwise, buy the slowest cheapest ram you can find for your next 7950x3d build... I dare you! [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
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