36 minutes ago, rolly said:

Man I took the plunge and bought the "TDS GTNix" and no problem with the VOR to VOR anymore.

But now I just can't get to lock on the ILS!!!! I tried many of them and no lock. The needle moves but the plane won't follow!!

My understanding is this was accidentally "broken" and has been fixed for the next update.

Al

1 minute ago, Sender46 said:

Hmmm, I think you're about a year out of date there.

It WAS a known MSFS bug that any peripheral that had on/on toggle switches caused the heading bug, altitude, VOR dials etc to move in 10 degrees (or 1000ft for altitude) if a toggle switch was constantly repeating or on.  But that bug was fixed in World Update 4.

I'm using a Yoko yoke and Thrustmaster TQS, with no toggle switch assignments other than autopilot on/off on the yoke (which I don't use with the C414 anyway because that doesn't work with the C414 yet).  It's the same hardware and the same switch assignments that I've been using with other aircraft and never had the 10 degree increment problem before.

So it appears more credible to me that it may be something in the C414's programming as you suggest, rather than an MSFS issue.

I have the same issue. As to be the code for this aircraft. It doesn't do it all the time but still most of the time!

10 minutes ago, Sender46 said:

Hmmm, I think you're about a year out of date there.

It WAS a known MSFS bug that any peripheral that had on/on toggle switches caused the heading bug, altitude, VOR dials etc to move in 10 degrees (or 1000ft for altitude) if a toggle switch was constantly repeating or on.  But that bug was fixed in World Update 4.

I'm using a Yoko yoke and Thrustmaster TQS, with no toggle switch assignments other than autopilot on/off on the yoke (which I don't use with the C414 anyway because that doesn't work with the C414 yet).  It's the same hardware and the same switch assignments that I've been using with other aircraft and never had the 10 degree increment problem before.

So it appears more credible to me that it may be something in the C414's programming as you suggest, rather than an MSFS issue.

Oh I definitely think it's to do with the code of the plane. I was just pondering whether perhaps this plane's code was somehow triggering an underlying issue in MSFS. You're right though, I do remember it was supposed to be fixed, so who knows what the issue is now?  

Personally I absolutely hate the knob acceleration (even when working correctly) in the sim. I'd much rather it be one click per degree and that's that. I wish they would add a toggle, perhaps in the assists menu, to turn the acceleration off. 

Rudder authority needs to be increased. 18kts X-wind and no chance to keep it on the runway. (just in case someone thinks its me: 13.000 RL hours - i know how to handle a plane)

Since the most recent update I've had issues with ILS approaches. I'm using the 750xi and prior to the latest update ILS approaches have been just fine. However after trying it out at the same airports I've used prior, the autopilot display reads that I have correctly intercepted the localiser and GS but I end up slowly veering off and losing the localiser and it does not start descending with the gs at any point either. I have tried reinstalling both the 414 as well as the 750xi software to no avail. I have also checked in another aircraft to see if the 750xi was the casuse but it worked fine there. Is it possible I am missing a step that has changed?

Fantastic aircraft nonetheless and I'm sure there will be a cause for the issue and/or a fix. Thanks again for the great product!

17 hours ago, Sender46 said:

Hmmm, I think you're about a year out of date there.

It WAS a known MSFS bug that any peripheral that had on/on toggle switches caused the heading bug, altitude, VOR dials etc to move in 10 degrees (or 1000ft for altitude) if a toggle switch was constantly repeating or on.  But that bug was fixed in World Update 4.

I'm using a Yoko yoke and Thrustmaster TQS, with no toggle switch assignments other than autopilot on/off on the yoke (which I don't use with the C414 anyway because that doesn't work with the C414 yet).  It's the same hardware and the same switch assignments that I've been using with other aircraft and never had the 10 degree increment problem before.

So it appears more credible to me that it may be something in the C414's programming as you suggest, rather than an MSFS issue.

I have the same issue. As to be the code for this aircraft. It doesn't do it all the time but still most of the time!

Do we get an email when a new update shows up?

6 hours ago, Doony said:

Since the most recent update I've had issues with ILS approaches. I'm using the 750xi and prior to the latest update ILS approaches have been just fine. However after trying it out at the same airports I've used prior, the autopilot display reads that I have correctly intercepted the localiser and GS but I end up slowly veering off and losing the localiser and it does not start descending with the gs at any point either. I have tried reinstalling both the 414 as well as the 750xi software to no avail. I have also checked in another aircraft to see if the 750xi was the casuse but it worked fine there. Is it possible I am missing a step that has changed?

Fantastic aircraft nonetheless and I'm sure there will be a cause for the issue and/or a fix. Thanks again for the great product!

Have you tried my gtnxi c414 mod?

Three posts down..

weird issue.  I use the Class Echo device to control a lot of the nav, radio and autopilot settings while flying.  It's easier for me than trying to click on points of the screen.

I noticed yesterday that when trying to adjust the squawk codes, it was set at 1200 (standard vfr), and wouldn't let me set it to use IFR.  I also couldn't adjust the flight altitude either.

Not sure if it is an issue with the class echo, or something with this plane.  I have used it with many other planes with no issues.

I will test without the class echo and see if I still have the issue.

 

35 minutes ago, KETORYP said:

weird issue.  I use the Class Echo device to control a lot of the nav, radio and autopilot settings while flying.  It's easier for me than trying to click on points of the screen.

I noticed yesterday that when trying to adjust the squawk codes, it was set at 1200 (standard vfr), and wouldn't let me set it to use IFR.  I also couldn't adjust the flight altitude either.

Not sure if it is an issue with the class echo, or something with this plane.  I have used it with many other planes with no issues.

I will test without the class echo and see if I still have the issue.

 

Tried another flight today without the Class Echo, and everything seems to work correctly.  going to test again with class echo and a standard plane and make sure the FS updates haven't screwed things up

50 minutes ago, KETORYP said:

Tried another flight today without the Class Echo, and everything seems to work correctly.  going to test again with class echo and a standard plane and make sure the FS updates haven't screwed things up

ok, tried the TMB and my Class Echo worked correctly.  Switched over to the 414 and it wouldn't work.  unable to change squawk codes, couldn't adjust set altitude, and if i selected VS, it locked into 35000 alt and wouldn't let me change it. 

Bought this 414 to use in FSEconomy after reading a few reviews from different sources. Very pleased so far and have seen increases in quality and performance with the various patches.  I have been using the PMS GTN750 and have settled into a good routine for takeoff and landings, though I don't use ILS approaches since I've yet to learn how.  I generally use VFR/GPS and can do what I want with the plane using that method.  With the last two patches, I've noticed two things that affect my enjoyment:

1) When braking upon landing, the plane "pourposes" (i.e. nose gear seems to bounce) until stopped. I tried adjusting the nose gear braking scalar to see if that was a problem, but it didn't have any effect.

2)   For three straight flights (Patch 1.3.2), as soon as I make a turn on final approaching an airport, my fps drops to 10 or under after averaging 35-40 in all other parts of the flight. As soon as I touch down, fps instantly jumps back to normal. For my PC, I'm running an Intel 7700, 32GB PC3200 RAM, and Nvidia 3060 graphics card.  I haven't updated drivers in a while as I settleled on a version that seemed to give me the best performance in MSFS and other games.  Other than drivers, any ideas on what in the options I can change or is this 414 model related since the fps instantly go back up after touching down?

On 4/3/2022 at 7:03 PM, Sender46 said:

I started cold and dark without using any tablet shortcuts.

I had it happen again today during a flight (again from cold and dark). It was OK initially then reverted to 10 degree increments during the flight.  Then later in the flight for no apparent reason it fixed itself and worked correctly for the rest of the flight.  I don't know if I did something that fixed it.  Strange.

I don't know if this means anything but:

Just had the heading bug and CDI go to 10 degree increments again.  I happened to change the NAV frequency from active to standby and back again.  And hey presto, immediately after that the heading bug and CDI were back to 1 degree increments again 🙂 .

I don't know if that gives a clue for a fix or not.  Will try that when it happens again.

P.S. Using Beta 1.3.2_Hotfix and the PMS50 GTN 750.

 

Edited April 4, 20224 yr by Sender46

On 3/30/2022 at 9:50 AM, skully said:

Scooby,

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the 414A's landing gear system was changed to an all electric from the previous 414's hydraulic system?

Perhaps you had electrical supply on battery instead of powering the system from the alternators and were drawing the battery down?

Not sure if this was ever answered; no the 414A model uses hydraulic gear. Emergency procedures section 3-11 from the POH calls for the pulling of the GEAR HYD breaker as part of the emergency gear extend procedure (as well as the placard above the T handle in the sim). It's missing the 133 KIAS or less part of the procedure and stuff, but hey, placards aren't complete all the time 😉

I just had this too. Through flight; I exited to the sim main menu but not to desktop. All I got was the nose gear at destination with the L and R HYD FLOW lights illuminated. Was running the 1.3.1 hotfix, I'm apparently not getting the "new update released" emails for some reason, but they're in my account download folder. (shrug).

 

50 minutes ago, Peter Clark said:

Not sure if this was ever answered; no the 414A model uses hydraulic gear. Emergency procedures section 3-11 from the POH calls for the pulling of the GEAR HYD breaker as part of the emergency gear extend procedure (as well as the placard above the T handle in the sim). It's missing the 133 KIAS or less part of the procedure and stuff, but hey, placards aren't complete all the time 😉

I just had this too. Through flight; I exited to the sim main menu but not to desktop. All I got was the nose gear at destination with the L and R HYD FLOW lights illuminated. Was running the 1.3.1 hotfix, I'm apparently not getting the "new update released" emails for some reason, but they're in my account download folder. (shrug).

 

And there you have it, I had it backwards.

"There are two broad categories of 414’s: the early, tip-tanked 414’s and the later model 414A Chancellor’s which had wet wing fuel tanks and other modifications including hydraulically operated landing gear. This landing gear upgrade replaced the electro-mechanical gear in the original model. "

https://twincessna.org/414-prospective-owners/

 

Here is a landing gear test on a 1070 Pre-A Model 414.

This earlier generation 414 model with the electrically actuated gear also had the fully enclosed main gear bay with inner gear doors.

The A model 414 onwards did not and the main wheels are exposed when the gear is up like on a 737.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqVX9tHgrwE&ab_channel=JerryWagner

Edited April 4, 20224 yr by skully