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Displayed FPS values are not your real FPS in MSFS

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In one of the earlier Video Episodes MS was talking about FPS and something I did not understand. They said something like even with low fps the sim would run smooth like 30 fps because of some kind of technique I never heard of before. Can anyone remember?

Gabriel

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I know this may be verging towards heresy, but over the years, I have chased FPS incessantly through all the flight sims, but so far, in this one, I haven't even looked at it because every flight. no matter whether over city, country, water, whatever, at whatever height, it's always been smooth and no stutters.

I don't have a killer machine,  in fact I have i7-8700 3.2 gHz, 32gig ram, operate of good old Hard drives, no ssd in sight and I use my native resolution on my monitor of 1920 x 1080 HD with a GTX 1060 card in it, but with my settings ranging between High and Ultra,  nothing has stopped this being smooth and I seriously couldn't tell you what FPS I am getting in either GA or tubes.  In fact this has been the ONLY Flight sim that hasn't crashed immediately on loading up Heathrow in a tube 🙂

After all the hassles over the years with FSX, P3D and XP in chasing configs and tuning and spending weeks just getting the word not allowed thing to mostly fly, this has been awesome..  load it, add the controllers and fly and enjoy 🙂

Graham

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I noticed this yesterday.  I've been using the nvidia FPS display as it looks better that the developer FPS and its miles out.  I was happily flying around with 80-90 FPS feeling very pleased with myself but the developer FPS shows about 40 and I suspect that's the more accurate measure. 

Not that it matters much as the sim is as smooth as I want it anyway. 

This problem reminds me of the problems that all versions of MSFS had between FS95 and FS2002 - the displayed fps were always double the actual fps. It was only in FS2004 and FSX where the displayed and actual were the same. I guess this new issue in FS2020 is somewhat akin to the mouse issue in the older versions where the fps would drop dramatically when the mouse cursor appeared.

That's why I don't measure fps anymore. As long as my flight is smooth and (mostly) stutter free and having no other issues, I don't care if it are 24, 29, or 55 ... fps.

- Harry 

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i have VR insight CDUII LCD also , could it be a conflict having this enabled in w10 as well ?

Will try to disable it

Michael Moe

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15 hours ago, JDWalley said:

Up to the point where you tried the VFR map, was the Windows Game Bar FPS counter appearing to be giving an accurate count, or was it off like the MSI and NVIDIA tools?

All of them show correct FPS until you pop the VFR window out,  so i don't know if it is different to others or not, they all showed the same before window pop out. 
I did not test it (Windows/xbox FPS counter) in the Use case 1, so i can't comment on that. only tested on Use case 2 and it got stuck as soon as i pop the VFR map out, so i don't know if it has the same issue like the others or not.

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12 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

i have VR insight CDUII LCD also , could it be a conflict having this enabled in w10 as well ?

Will try to disable it

Michael Moe

@Michael Moe

the VRInsight works in MSFS? I’d like to see how you got it set up please!

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6 hours ago, SKEWR said:

@Michael Moe

the VRInsight works in MSFS? I’d like to see how you got it set up please!

Nope,doesnt work but still active as a display in windows10 so maybe disable it just tp be safe. Maybe single monitor performance could be activated in Nvidia Inspector.

Michael Moe

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I've been using MSI Afterburner to benchmark, and I've seen nothing to make think that the readings I'm getting aren't accurate.

23 minutes ago, Hippo said:

I've been using MSI Afterburner to benchmark, and I've seen nothing to make think that the readings I'm getting aren't accurate.

Try popping out a window. Not sure how afterburner will react since evga now has its own tool and I use it but theirs started reporting 1000’s of FPS in both main and the popped out display lol. 

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1 hour ago, flyinion said:

Try popping out a window. Not sure how afterburner will react since evga now has its own tool and I use it but theirs started reporting 1000’s of FPS in both main and the popped out display lol. 

It shows the FPS of the fastest Window - in this case ATC. Stop watching your fps and start watching outside the aircraft 🙂

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40 minutes ago, Gabster said:

Stop watching your fps and start watching outside the aircraft 🙂

Some people, and I include myself, find it just as enjoyable, sometimes even more so, to tweak settings and squeeze out that last sliver of fps vs visual quality.  I.e. looking inside the cowling can be just as fun as looking out of the window.

Beware, it can become quite addictive, in an OCD sort of way ;).

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You have to use the Dev Mode to show FPS all the time until you get used to it.

I spent a dozen hours thinking I'd found an amazing trick to double FPS by opening the weather engine.

When I realised, I crawled back into my shell for 48 hours, had a little cry... And then deleted as many posts as I could find.... Oh, and the videos I'd put on YouTube...

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