September 7, 20196 yr Hey, Does anyone know what manuals are missing from 777, 747 and DC6 latest installers? Apparently one has to find the manuals online now (official support answer - oh man - trust me this is now a gray area). Boeing changed the licensing, and though there was no announcement from PMDG about this. If you have your old installers - keep them as they have all the manuals. I know 737 lost all the manuals - only comes intro and 2 tutorials. Thanks Honestly this is super annoying when spending big bucks on these addons to have this happen. Edited September 7, 20196 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 7, 20196 yr The links to the manuals are in the Ops Center, if those are the manuals you refer to. Dwight Heyer
September 7, 20196 yr Yep, I just checked on my side, they are there. Guillaume YouTube Channel : The Flying Frog (P3D flying) My Flickr Gallery : clicky clicky CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D at 4.5 Ghz Motherboard: Gigabyte AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming RAM: 48 Gb GPU: 1x RTX 4090 OS : Win 11 Display : Philips BD4350UC (4K 43" display) + 1 AOC 21" FHD side displayHardware: Virpil WarBRD Base with WarBRD Grip OR Warthog Grip, VPC ACE Collection Rudder Pedals, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle, Goflight MCP Pro, Custom homecockpit.
September 7, 20196 yr Author Actually if you guys download the newest installers (for example - download today and do a clean install) from the site and do a clean install in a sim (for example your sim should not have PMDG directory - let the installer create it - hence the lack of documents will be noticed) - you will see 737 does not have the manuals (even posted a ticket and got an official response). Trying to figure out what manuals are missing from 777,747 and Dc6 Edited September 7, 20196 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 7, 20196 yr Interesting. I did a clean install using the newest installers in August and have all the manuals (FCOM1, FCOM2, FCTM and QRH for the 737; FCOM and QRH for the 747; FCOM and QRH for the 747-8; FCOM1, FCOM2, FCTM and QRH for the 777 - all P3Dv4). Marc
September 7, 20196 yr I do have all the manuals as well for all 737 747 777 David J Guillen Intel Core i7-6850k CPU @ 4.1 O/C GeForce GTX 1080 TI l Sony 4k Ultra HD 48" Window 7/64 l 16GB RAM
September 7, 20196 yr Author 1 hour ago, voske said: Interesting. I did a clean install using the newest installers in August and have all the manuals (FCOM1, FCOM2, FCTM and QRH for the 737; FCOM and QRH for the 747; FCOM and QRH for the 747-8; FCOM1, FCOM2, FCTM and QRH for the 777 - all P3Dv4). I will check the p3d installer and see if the manuals are in there. The FSX PMDG 737 did not have the manuals. Now it could be removed from the FSX version. Though I did receive the official word from pmdg though about Boeing changing the license Edited September 7, 20196 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
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September 8, 20196 yr The original 747-400 version 1 had a manual written by PMDG which you could print of, but now you see the Boeing manual which you are not allowed to print a copy of due to copyright. Raymond Fry.
September 8, 20196 yr 48 minutes ago, rjfry said: The original 747-400 version 1 had a manual written by PMDG which you could print of, but now you see the Boeing manual which you are not allowed to print a copy of due to copyright. Aaaaaannd if you Delete it, redownload newest installer and install, those non printable manuals are now non viewable, non existent. .....it’s ok though..PMDG..no need to announce anything... You can just go ahead and lower the price now...oh, um, hold on, no, that won’t happen, will it.... we payed for something that was a whole product and now it is not because half the product is missing. ....you need to search the web... 😂😂😂😂 Buys a Ford...Ford recall vehicle. They remove steering wheel. Give vehicles back. How am I supposed to drive it? pmdg’s answer...go looking in the scrap yards for another one. ”but when I bought the vehicle it had a steering wheel, and your update removed it, can I get some compensation for my time required to find a new one? “ 😡NO! GO AWAY! Luke Pype
September 8, 20196 yr Simply unacceptable all around. Particularly having removed them from the installers with no announcement. One nice thing about the official PMDG forums moving off Avsim is that we can now be honest about stuff like this. James
September 8, 20196 yr 50 minutes ago, MaDDogz said: Aaaaaannd if you Delete it, redownload newest installer and install, those non printable manuals are now non viewable, non existent. .....it’s ok though..PMDG..no need to announce anything... You can just go ahead and lower the price now...oh, um, hold on, no, that won’t happen, will it.... we payed for something that was a whole product and now it is not because half the product is missing. ....you need to search the web... 😂😂😂😂 Buys a Ford...Ford recall vehicle. They remove steering wheel. Give vehicles back. How am I supposed to drive it? pmdg’s answer...go looking in the scrap yards for another one. ”but when I bought the vehicle it had a steering wheel, and your update removed it, can I get some compensation for my time required to find a new one? “ 😡NO! GO AWAY! I am one of the lucky ones then Boeing flight operation manual 747-400 1606 pages 747-8 1806 pages. Raymond Fry.
September 8, 20196 yr I too have all the manuals for the 737, 747 and 777. I don't really understand what people are ranting about. Is it because, the manuals are 'missing' from the FSX versions?! Have you considered posting this in the PMDG forums? 🙂 Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
September 8, 20196 yr Author 2 hours ago, Anders Bermann said: I too have all the manuals for the 737, 747 and 777. I don't really understand what people are ranting about. Is it because, the manuals are 'missing' from the FSX versions?! Have you considered posting this in the PMDG forums? 🙂 Hi, It has been posted in their forums by few other users also - but for some reason those threads got zero traction. It was posted here also when these were official (quick search will reveal). It always ended up with phrase - submit ticket to them. These things happen - it is just that official announcement would have been great - oh well there is youtube/forums (avsim & official pmdg), Chuck's guide to learn from. Edited September 8, 20196 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 8, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Anders Bermann said: I too have all the manuals for the 737, 747 and 777. I don't really understand what people are ranting about. Is it because, the manuals are 'missing' from the FSX versions?! Have you considered posting this in the PMDG forums? 🙂 apparently users that install the latest or have bought the 737 77 747 recently wont have the manual only if you had purchased the addons a long time ago as sky wolf has mentioned all to do with licencing I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
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