July 9, 20178 yr 9 hours ago, Ioan92 said: Excuse me sempai~ Care to tell me what other settings I should bring down? :-DDD Specs: i7 2600k @ 4.3Ghz 8GB RAM GTX 980 Lol 8x SSAA. The arrogance with your statement is hysterical. Perhaps read and internalize the statement RSR made in regards to DL. David Graham Google, Network+, Cisco CSE, Cisco Unity Support Specialist, A+, CCNA
July 9, 20178 yr I just tried in the PMDG 777 at FlyTampa Copenhagen at RWY-04R at 00:00. With 8xSSAAWith ALL lights ON 4-6 FPS With ALL light OFF 20-23 FPS With 2xMSAAWith ALL lights ON 33-35 FPS With ALL lights OFF 28-32 FPS As far as I can see, setting your AA settings so anything starting with SS** absolutely KILLS the performance... Kinda what we saw with the cloud performance (which so many people reported about a year ago). That was optimized and so will Dynamic Lights in time... Right now, just set your AA setting to either 2xMSAA or 4xMSAA, and you'll have minimum impact. Stating the this is an issue, problem or bug with the PMDG777/747 is simply wrong. It's out of PMDG's control, so to speak. That PMDG haven't provided an option to switch between the legacy and new lighting model, is something which has been explained by the developer. It isn't as easy *just* to switch between and supporting both, is not a simple copy-paste of code. This is a thing Lockheed-Martin most ilkely will have a look at, and will be optimized through future patches and updates. Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
July 9, 20178 yr 15 hours ago, Anders Bermann said: I just tried in the PMDG 777 at FlyTampa Copenhagen at RWY-04R at 00:00. With 8xSSAAWith ALL lights ON 4-6 FPS With ALL light OFF 20-23 FPS With 2xMSAAWith ALL lights ON 33-35 FPS With ALL lights OFF 28-32 FPS What resolution are you using for your monitor? 1080p or 4k? What type of GPU are you using? Eric
July 9, 20178 yr 18 minutes ago, B777ER said: What resolution are you using for your monitor? 1080p or 4k? What type of GPU are you using? Oh, sorry I forgot to write that... 1080p with a GTX1060 Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
July 10, 20178 yr 15 hours ago, Anders Bermann said: Oh, sorry I forgot to write that... 1080p with a GTX1060 Okay thanks. I am on a 50 inch 4k with a 980Ti. Have not gone to v4 yet (still on 3.4) but I only use MSAA so was just wondering how my system will fare. On 3.4 it's no issues. Eric
July 11, 20178 yr I have a 980ti. PMDG 777 with dynamic lighting on produces stutters - no fun. If you switch dynamic lighting off in P3D, no stutters, but then you have no taxi and landing lights. Both is a no-go. Basically, I see no sense in introducing a new feature (DL) in PMDG v4 aircrafts if it cannot be switched off. Especially if that very feature can be switched off in the sim. Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
July 11, 20178 yr 3 minutes ago, Cargostorm said: I have a 980ti. PMDG 777 with dynamic lighting on produces stutters - no fun. If you switch dynamic lighting off in P3D, no stutters, but then you have no taxi and landing lights. Both is a no-go. Basically, I see no sense in introducing a new feature (DL) in PMDG v4 aircrafts if it cannot be switched off. Especially if that very feature can be switched off in the sim. What resolution and AA setting are you using? Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
July 11, 20178 yr 21 minutes ago, Cargostorm said: I have a 980ti. PMDG 777 with dynamic lighting on produces stutters - no fun. If you switch dynamic lighting off in P3D, no stutters, but then you have no taxi and landing lights. Both is a no-go. Basically, I see no sense in introducing a new feature (DL) in PMDG v4 aircrafts if it cannot be switched off. Especially if that very feature can be switched off in the sim. I have the same card. As suggested above, I dropped from 8xSSAA to 8xMSAA and the problem went away. I get around 45fps with sliders between mid and max. Thanks Mat -|- Win 11 Pro, 14900K, Asus Strix Z790, 64Gb Corsair Vengeance, MSI 5090 - Hardware: MFG, Thrustmaster, Logitch, Honeycomb, Virpil, WinWing & Tobii. P3D v5 Pro, XP12, MSFS2020 & 2024 and way too many add-ons to mention! Simming since '95. Flying since '98.
July 11, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, Anders Bermann said: What resolution and AA setting are you using? 2 hours ago, mataus said: I have the same card. As suggested above, I dropped from 8xSSAA to 8xMSAA and the problem went away. I get around 45fps with sliders between mid and max. I am at 2x SSAA (and 8x Anisotropic filtering) because some sceneries / textures showed some flickering with MSAA. Will try 8x MSAA, and see how it performs. As an alternative I could do two settings: one setting for day flights (SSAA + DL Off) and one setting for night flights (MSAA and DL On). As soon as SimStarter is ready for V4, making such sets will be easy. Is there a performance impact if DL is ON during daytime? Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
July 11, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, Cargostorm said: I am at 2x SSAA (and 8x Anisotropic filtering) because some sceneries / textures showed some flickering with MSAA. Will try 8x MSAA, and see how it performs. As an alternative I could do two settings: one setting for day flights (SSAA + DL Off) and one setting for night flights (MSAA and DL On). As soon as SimStarter is ready for V4, making such sets will be easy. Is there a performance impact if DL is ON during daytime? I haven't tried with DL off to be honest. These are my current test settings: FXAA - On AA - 8xMSAA Anisotropic - 16x Texture - Ultra Res - 1920x1080 Vsync - On Triple Buffering - On TERRAIN Radius - Ultra Tessellation - High Mesh - 2m Texture Res - 30cm High res - On SCENERY Complexity - extreme Autogen distance - high Autogen veg - dense Autogen building - dense dynamic veg - on WATER detail - medium reflections - clouds, user vehicle EFFECTS detail - high distance - high LIGHTING HDR - on Dynamic reflections - off dynamic lighting - on lights illuminate ground - on lens flare - off SHADOWS quality - medium distance - low cast/receive - internal/external vehicle WEATHER cloud distance - 110mi coverage - max detailed clouds volumetric fog detailed precipitation I'm using UK2000 EGLL, Active sky for P3D v4 and the PMDG 777 and 747 for testing the best set up. With the above my average is 45fps and rarely drops below 28fps. I know all systems are different, but this is what works for me. Thanks Mat -|- Win 11 Pro, 14900K, Asus Strix Z790, 64Gb Corsair Vengeance, MSI 5090 - Hardware: MFG, Thrustmaster, Logitch, Honeycomb, Virpil, WinWing & Tobii. P3D v5 Pro, XP12, MSFS2020 & 2024 and way too many add-ons to mention! Simming since '95. Flying since '98.
July 11, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, mataus said: I haven't tried with DL off to be honest. These are my current test settings: FXAA - On AA - 8xMSAA Anisotropic - 16x Texture - Ultra Res - 1920x1080 Vsync - On Triple Buffering - On TERRAIN Radius - Ultra Tessellation - High Mesh - 2m Texture Res - 30cm High res - On SCENERY Complexity - extreme Autogen distance - high Autogen veg - dense Autogen building - dense dynamic veg - on WATER detail - medium reflections - clouds, user vehicle EFFECTS detail - high distance - high LIGHTING HDR - on Dynamic reflections - off dynamic lighting - on lights illuminate ground - on lens flare - off SHADOWS quality - medium distance - low cast/receive - internal/external vehicle WEATHER cloud distance - 110mi coverage - max detailed clouds volumetric fog detailed precipitation I'm using UK2000 EGLL, Active sky for P3D v4 and the PMDG 777 and 747 for testing the best set up. With the above my average is 45fps and rarely drops below 28fps. I know all systems are different, but this is what works for me. The only thing you forgot to put was type of monitor and size? 1080p or a 4k? Makes a difference on how much work the gpu has to do. Eric
July 11, 20178 yr Running DL on in 4K with 2xMSAA.... works fine for me. The fps drop a bit but still ok to fly. Still happy with everything so far. I just fly now and stop complaining about the small issues :-)
July 11, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, B777ER said: The only thing you forgot to put was type of monitor and size? 1080p or a 4k? Makes a difference on how much work the gpu has to do. Read the very first set of settings. 1920 x 1080. Size is irrelevant. Cheers, Chris Brand
July 12, 20178 yr I just did a takeoff at FB KMSP with Dynamic light on (only landing lights) in the PMDG777 and noticed AI Traffic also has a HUGE impact . Looks amazing btw. GTX970 SLI So try without any Traffic Thanks Michael Moe Michael Moe
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