One of my favorite activities are the precision landing challenges on MSFS 2024. You can complete an activity in 7 minutes or less. Great if you have no time.

Yet no one talks about MSFS 2024 landing challenges. The Airbus landing challenges are totally wild. You are about 10 NM from the airport, you are too high, both engines are flamed out and you are about to go into a flat stall.

I just did one and it started me off at doing only 40 knots, falling out of the air. Lots to do in 5 minutes.

Anyway, my question. Why do simmers not like these challenges? They don't seem to be popular at all. I am addicted to them.
 

 

3 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

One of my favorite activities are the precision landing challenges on MSFS 2024. You can complete an activity in 7 minutes or less. Great if you have no time.

Yet no one talks about MSFS 2024 landing challenges. The Airbus landing challenges are totally wild. You are about 10 NM from the airport, you are too high, both engines are flamed out and you are about to go into a flat stall.

I just did one and it started me off at doing only 40 knots, falling out of the air. Lots to do in 5 minutes.

Anyway, my question. Why do simmers not like these challenges? They don't seem to be popular at all. I am addicted to them.
 

Well, I thought the fact that they start with engines out was a bug ?

Then some inter-system dependencies are not realistic for an Airbus ... so I tend to skip this kind of "wild" situations because I think they're not created with care enough to offer the simmer a realistic failure scenario.

I loved them to pieces in 2020 but a lot of the 2024 challenges are broken & some of the have the touchdown points changed to a different end of the runway - which makes the much longer that the 3/5 min jobs - the La Grande one now crashes the airplane when started & when you start it again all is well - except sometimes the touch down point is either missing or gone up the other end - bloody frustrating to say the least - also what bugs me is the fact that the individual parameters are no longer displayed - just the raw score - whereas before you could see where yo were going wrong 

well just my 2 cents worth

6 hours ago, jcomm said:

Well, I thought the fact that they start with engines out was a bug ?

Then some inter-system dependencies are not realistic for an Airbus ... so I tend to skip this kind of "wild" situations because I think they're not created with care enough to offer the simmer a realistic failure scenario.

I am not sure if flamed out engines is a bug or intentional. In 2020, they had a detailed description of the challenge. There is no such thing in 2024. I have asked on other MSFS forums if a flamed out stall is intentional, and there has not been any answers. They did fix the bug where as soon as you spawned, you went into an unrecoverable death spiral. They also fixed a bug where if you completed the challenge and landed perfectly, you were given a fail on the challenge and a crash was recorded on your logbook. 

It seems that only the Airbus challenges are like this. On the Boeing challenges, some of the bugs are starting with blacked out panels for a few minutes, and having no engine sounds.

Regardless, when the Challenges work, it has a high fun factor per minute ratio.

For a realistic Landing Challenge, this add on can't be beat. 

 

https://fsipanel.com/

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

For a realistic Landing Challenge, this add on can't be beat. 

 

https://fsipanel.com/

Oh wow Bob!!! Mucho Gracious!!!! Here is the video link from @Bobsk8's recommendation:
 

Edit: This is pure nirvana!!!

 

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by alanw2005

I do believe the 2024 challenges are broken, plus the missing descriptions. But, to the OP's point, these type exercises do make things interesting if realistic. Back in my USAF days, we had Rodeo where we competed in everything from Air Refueling, Airdrops to landing. Each unit would send a team. For landings, they would put a white stripe across the runway. You would have a person onboard watching how you operate. You are judged on procedures and scored on your touch down in relation to the stripe. You wanted to nail the stripe. The only thing with competitions is the criteria. In a sense, for normal landings, you are really concerned with speed, alignment, glide path, aimpoint, Touch down zone and touch down relation to centerline. We didn't worry about smoothness. Honestly, if you were in the range from slight firm to firm, I wouldn't make a comment. Bobsk8 posted an interesting product.   

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

For a realistic Landing Challenge, this add on can't be beat. 

 

https://fsipanel.com/

Absolutely. And if you have only spare time for simming, it is simply the best or flying STAR approches to any destination. Takes 5 minutes to load into a STAR. I'm using it very often.

22 minutes ago, Nemo said:

Absolutely. And if you have only spare time for simming, it is simply the best or flying STAR approches to any destination. Takes 5 minutes to load into a STAR. I'm using it very often.

The MSFS landing challenges don't have instrument approaches. FSI is going to be instrument approaches, in zero visibility down to minimums, with gusting crosswinds above maximum demonstrated. This app is momentous!!! Buying it after dinner!

@Bobsk8 should get a commission. 

More efficent than using the FMC saved state option in some aircraft.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by alanw2005