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IXEG 737

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After watching, he complained because it didnt intercept ILS, in the old 737, you have to tune both NAV radios and ARM both AP's he never armed second AP. Hes flown the old one so dont understand how he missed it.

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  • Over the past 9 months, our focus has been on ensuring that the IXEG 737 functions smoothly with X-Plane 12. This has led to the addition of animated doors, a revamped GUI, a detailed 3D cabin, some s

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    I got to tell you about the most scary flight I've even been through when revisiting this thread upon reading @mjrhealth recent post. I was on a flight to ESNS a number of years ago (pre 2014 as

After a few min of that nonsense I couldn’t continue to watch anymore and from the comments, they think he being honest when he is really being careless by not being prepared with at least enough information on whats in the in the aircraft and what not to expect. 

55 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

After watching, he complained because it didnt intercept ILS, in the old 737, you have to tune both NAV radios and ARM both AP's he never armed second AP. Hes flown the old one so dont understand how he missed it.

Again he does not  following good flight sim practices that would have made him aware that you need to tune both nav radios. I don’t know what 737 he’s been flying that lets him get away with not tuning one with out tuning the other on a ILS approach. But it is bad practice from someone who was once very discipline in his flying. I don’t mind them having fun but it should not come at the expense of giving a good quality review of an aircraft.

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10 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

Again he does not  following good flight sim practices that would have made him aware that you need to tune both nav radios. I don’t know what 737 he’s been flying that lets him get away with not tuning one with out tuning the other on a ILS approach. But it is bad practice from someone who was once very discipline in his flying. I don’t mind them having fun but it should not come at the expense of giving a good quality review of an aircraft.

He owned the xp11 ver he mentions it. Thats why i dont getnit.

3 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

He owned the xp11 ver he mentions it. Thats why i dont getnit.

It his fans he plays to. He does these live stream because editing recorded version he says is too much work and he doesn’t have time. His recorded version at times are better. At that point he would taken the time to review the in’s and out of the aircraft which is what he should be doing before going live.

11 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

in the old 737, you have to tune both NAV radios and ARM both AP's he never armed second AP. Hes flown the old one so dont understand how he missed it.

No, you do NOT have to tune both NAV radios and ARM both A/Ps in order to intercept ILS, exception if you are going to perform an autolanding.

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V1 Simulation covered this aircraft in his stream.  Some issues and his conclusion is $14 upgrade price is good but anyone buying full price it is not worth it. 

 

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It's mostly there, but not quite. Ixeg is apparently a full-time band now? All 1.5 of them. Well, Janov doesn't even count for the full 0.5, but good to see he's on board. Safe bet that it will get there eventually. I'm certainly not complaining about what I got for the $14. 100% recommended for anyone who did get that email.

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2 hours ago, Hamilton_ said:

No, you do NOT have to tune both NAV radios and ARM both A/Ps in order to intercept ILS, exception if you are going to perform an autolanding.

I stand corrected from what I said earlier and you are correct.  After reviewing the video he was performing a ILS approach, non autoloading. However I notice that he didn't take command and let the aircraft wonder off until he saw that ILS was not controlling the direction, plus was not really quite line up to the runway and should he have use the local loc first after lining up to the runway correctly before he engage the approach button on this particular aircraft? 

Blackbox77 tuned one NAV radio for the ILS frequency but perform a manual landing but didn't see any problems with it. 

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1926356103

 

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7 hours ago, Sims Smith said:

V1 Simulation covered this aircraft in his stream.  Some issues and his conclusion is $14 upgrade price is good but anyone buying full price it is not worth it. 

 

Current release is only base line. These things get more compiex, 2 years is not unvommon, fmod w8ll make a big deal, as well as upgrade to xp11 nav data format, but neither of those things break it.

14 hours ago, BobFS88 said:

I stand corrected from what I said earlier and you are correct.  After reviewing the video he was performing a ILS approach, non autoloading. However I notice that he didn't take command and let the aircraft wonder off until he saw that ILS was not controlling the direction, plus was not really quite line up to the runway and should he have use the local loc first after lining up to the runway correctly before he engage the approach button on this particular aircraft? 

Blackbox77 tuned one NAV radio for the ILS frequency but perform a manual landing but didn't see any problems with it. 

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1926356103

 

probably not an IXEG problem. there is a bug in the default ILS radios that makes them randomly fault on anything less than a CATIII ILS.

I did point LR to it a few months back, but got told to recreate it in the default 737 which I zero idea how to fly, so just rewrote the LOC system for the 744.

On 9/17/2023 at 4:22 AM, BobFS88 said:

After a few min of that nonsense I couldn’t continue to watch anymore and from the comments, they think he being honest when he is really being careless by not being prepared with at least enough information on whats in the in the aircraft and what not to expect. 

I did watch most of it. While he is pretty heavily critical, he also describes it as his favorite aircraft of any sim afaict.

plus release notes dont tell you much - and no one bothers to read them anyway. 

I'd describe him as a harsh beta tester - the review he did on the 744 a while ago was really helpful in understanding what issues were important and which werent....

Like I watched his review, and personally none of the criticisms he had would make me say its not a good aircraft that is worth the money. The sounds were phenominal imho, systems wise it is as solid as can be expected from any aircraft for XP12 can be yet.

Im not a tubeliner guy (I enjoy testing and devving the 744 10,000 times more than I enjoy flying it from A to B), but this looks like a solid bird no one would be ashamed to have in their hanger to me - going just off what Q8 showed.

I just really, really wish we could get more "5 minute" reviews of aircraft & updates. that entire several hours of video (and many similar streams) could have been edited down to a minute and not lost any detail, especially if it referenced a video from earlier versions.

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This plane has always being one of the best for years, kinda has a cult following. If they had left the release longer there would of being many complaints. People really dont get the development requirements. Basically what they did was a flight model and some graphics updates lighting etc to get it 12 compliant, im sure that was a headache in itself. They do mention something about ground affect causing some minor headaches on landing, The sound are getting updated to fmod and the FMS to xp11 data format make life easier for everyone. FMS wont happen over night. They already have a list of bugs to fix. mostly minor.

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18 hours ago, BobFS88 said:

However I notice that he didn't take command and let the aircraft wonder off until he saw that ILS was not controlling the direction

From what I recall he had accidentilly changed the CRS1 heading which caused the problem of not intercepting the LOC in the first place.

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5 hours ago, mSparks said:

I did watch most of it. While he is pretty heavily critical, he also describes it as his favorite aircraft of any sim afaict.

plus release notes dont tell you much - and no one bothers to read them anyway. 

I'd describe him as a harsh beta tester - the review he did on the 744 a while ago was really helpful in understanding what issues were important and which werent....

Yeah

There is no doubt that he enjoys X plane and the fact that this was one of his favorite aircraft. The problem is his not accepting this as a first release since the conversion, that it would have issue, feature are going to be missing and that those feature will be out in a later date based on what the developer stated in his post if he had bother to read it.  The release notes may not say much and no one reads them but it is his job to going over those things since he is one doing the review if he cares to be as thorough as he like to be otherwise what is the point in him doing it. Which is why he should have done a dry run in going over the aircraft and taking it up before he goes live with it, then point out some of not so obvious things that he discovered. 

As much as he likes ascetics, when going through the 3D cabinet he said "it looks nice" but there was not much he found "that stood out" that would be interesting, while ignoring the features people had requested like a doors are operational, the sounds changes in the cabin, even the coffee maker work.  Not that those would have matter to you or me or many other who could care less but point of being lack of thoroughness of some of the positive aspect of the aircraft. 

 You look at his review and then look at blackbox77 and you can see the difference in how he cover it, over all review of the aircraft both inside and out, finding issue and mistakes he made and had time to perform a failure while not losing control aircraft. He looked more prepared, maybe because he is a pilot. His review didn't to me, look so bad and it was live.

6 hours ago, mSparks said:

I just really, really wish we could get more "5 minute" reviews of aircraft & updates. that entire several hours of video (and many similar streams) could have been edited down to a minute and not lost any detail, especially if it referenced a video from earlier versions.

Exactly.

I think that his where he shines better than doing these live review IMO. 

2 hours ago, avhpilot said:

From what I recall he had accidentilly changed the CRS1 heading which caused the problem of not intercepting the LOC in the first place.

Interesting.

Everyone is entitled to make a mistake but when they are the ones doing the review, he needs to make sure he's are not the one creating the issue and making it worse than it is.

Being prepared (like doing a preflight), following a procedure you know that works and doing some sort of checklist may have caught that especially when he is the one claiming about the issues.

If you watch 737NG failure vireo's, you will see he will follow a procedure when perfuming the failure and a checklist the on the display each and everytime because bugs will creep up if you're unaware. Same in the case of doing a live video review. You may not expect anything to happen but it better to be prepared for it rather than let things happen just because its a sim.

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