February 19, 20179 yr Hi all, Thought it was interesting to share some info I found with you guys. British Airways ships: G-BNLX MTOW is 396893kg and has a fast taper washout (Type A, 15000ft). No longer flying, dont have the seat plan. I guess it would have been around 345 seats. G-CIVI MTOW is 364000kg and has a fast taper washout. 275 seats. G-CIVX MTOW is 364000kg and has a slow taper washout (Type C, 5,5% residual derate @ 35000ft). 275 seats. Virgin Atlantic Airways: G-VROM MTOW is 362874kg and has a fast taper washout. At least, this is what I found... http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=2469 (Aerowinx forum - topic about Climb Derate and Washout) https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?appid=1 (Site where you can find data about any G- registerd bird) Anyone with more infos or corrections, please let me know! Happy flying!! Alex Alexandre Giordan
February 19, 20179 yr The thread is now slightly out of date. All the BAW 747-436 fleet now have the following CLB Washout values: Two fixed climb thrust derates can be selected on the THRUST LIM page. CLB 1 uses a 10% derate of CLB thrust to 25,000 feet, then increases thrust linearly with altitude to CLB thrust at 35,000 feet. CLB 2 uses a 20% derate of CLB thrust to 25,000 feet, then increases thrust linearly with altitude to 5.5% derate at 35,000 feet. Data is as of manuals 2013. BAW B747-436 Fleet as at Tue 11 Oct 16: 37 A/C Seating Configurations: 14F/52J/36W/235Y - Mid J -337 14F/86J/30W/145Y - Hi J - 275 14F/70J/30W/185Y - Hi J 'Lite' - 299 *** Mid J Aircraft with Electronic Fuel Scavenge System into Main Tank 2 Only*** GBNLK BPCG 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GBNLN BPCK 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'Poppy' PromotionGBNLO BPCL 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'Face to Face' titlesGBNLP BPCM 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GBNLY BRAG 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union FlagGCIVA AKQR 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag *** Mid J Aircraft with Hydro-Mechanical Fuel Scavenge System *** GCIVB AKQS 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union FlagGCIVC AKRS 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' & 'OneWorld' titles GCIVD FPHR 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' & 'OneWorld' titlesGCIVE FPGR 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union FlagGCIVJ BGPQ 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union FlagGCIVK BGPQ 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'OneWorld' titlesGCIVL BHMP 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'OneWorld' titlesGCIVM BJGP 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' & 'OneWorld' titles GCIVN BFKS 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union FlagGCIVO BFPR 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVP CLHJ 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' & 'OneWorld' titles GCIVT CLDP 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVU CLEP 14F/52J/36W/235Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' *** Hi J Aircraft with Hydro-Mechanical Fuel Scavenge System *** GCIVR CLAP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union FlagGCIVS CLBP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union FlagGCIVV CLFP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVW CPHM 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVX CPKL 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVZ CPLQ 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' & 'OneWorld' title GBYGA CPMQ 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' GBYGD DEFP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag GBYGE DGFP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union FlagGBYGF DGHP 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag *** Hi J Aircraft with Hydro-Mechanical Fuel Scavenge System No Stab Tank *** GCIVF BGKQ 14F/86J/30W/145Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve' *** Hi J 'Lite' Aircraft with Hydro-Mechanical Fuel Scavenge System *** GCIVY CPKQ 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GBYGB CPMR 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GBYGC CPQS 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union FlagGBYGG DGJP 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union Flag ***Hi J 'Lite' Aircraft with Hydro-Mechanical Fuel Scavenge System No Stab Tank *** GCIVG BGLS 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union Flag 'To Fly, To Serve'GCIVH BGMR 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union FlagGCIVI BGMS 14F/70J/30W/185Y Union Flag 'OneWorld' titles Maximum Taxi Weight G-BNLK - G-CIVE, G-CIVJ - G-CIVZ 397800kgs Maximum Takeoff Weight G-CIVF - G-CIVI 381017kgs G-BNLK - G-CIVE, G-CIVJ - G-CIVZ 396893kgs Maximum Zero Fuel Weight G-BNLK - G-CIVE, G-CIVJ - G-CIVZ 246754kgs G-CIVF - G-CIVI 251743kgs Maximum Landing Weight 285763kgs Of course not being a unicorn myself thus having no 'bona fide' relationship with any real world airline nor being an 'aviator' either renders all this information possibly 'fake news' .... http://www.avsim.com/topic/504456-have-an-accurate-options-config-for-one-of-our-liveries/ If you need some more info I might be able to help. Steve Bell "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato (latterly attributed to Saul Bellow) The most useful tool on the AVSIM Fora ... 'Mark forum as read'
February 19, 20179 yr Author Thanks a lot for all this precious informations!! Anything on Virgin Atlantic? Cheers Alex Alexandre Giordan
February 19, 20179 yr Alex, Check your PMs Steve Steve Bell "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato (latterly attributed to Saul Bellow) The most useful tool on the AVSIM Fora ... 'Mark forum as read'
February 19, 20179 yr This is great stuff! I applaud all the folks who are contributing this info (in a civil way, hehe) to make our hobby that much more immersive. :Applause: I do what I can to help the immersion factor with paints of course, and together with the excellent Queen PMDG gave us, and this extra data...we're getting closer to simming nirvana every day! Regards, Steve DraGet my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s hereDownload my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here
February 19, 20179 yr Yeah I also wonder of the MTOW of the VIR B744s? It is not 394.6 tonnes..on VROM and VBIG so I don`t really know..is it some of the VIR planes that have a MTOW of 394.6 tonnes at all? So please let me get some Virgin Info, the same type of the BAW planes above if possible?
February 19, 20179 yr If you need some more info I might be able to help. Hello Steve Bell..., I hadn't seen you around here in a while. Still doing any EGLL sidstars? Dan Downs KCRP
February 20, 20179 yr Commercial Member Did someone mention Virgin Atlantic Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love. Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library
February 21, 20179 yr I note many painters are leaving the two windows aft of the upper deck visible. I have never seen a 747-400 with windows in this location... and leaving the -400D windows on the upper deck of the normal -400 on the other side. In fact many are not even blanking out the correct windows based on lavatory / galley location... Sad considering how much detail they put into the other areas of the airplane. (Please dont get me wrong, thats a great paint, just commenting on my own observations.) Wes Meyer
February 21, 20179 yr I note many painters are leaving the two windows aft of the upper deck visible. I have never seen a 747-400 with windows in this location... and leaving the -400D windows on the upper deck of the normal -400 on the other side. In fact many are not even blanking out the correct windows based on lavatory / galley location... Sad considering how much detail they put into the other areas of the airplane. (Please dont get me wrong, thats a great paint, just commenting on my own observations.) Seriously man? Thanks for the paint Paul much appreciated. David Andrew - desert based - a330/350 rated.
February 21, 20179 yr Commercial Member Quote"I note many painters are leaving the two windows aft of the upper deck visible. I have never seen a 747-400 with windows in this location... and leaving the -400D windows on the upper deck of the normal -400 on the other side." Ok, thanks, but that is an early screenshot and the plane is now ready for upload with correct config, correct windows, correct sheepskin seats and many more details. What a great plane to paint, thanks PMDG. (Avsim reduces pics to small so click on pic for larger image) Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love. Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library
February 21, 20179 yr Quote"I note many painters are leaving the two windows aft of the upper deck visible. I have never seen a 747-400 with windows in this location... and leaving the -400D windows on the upper deck of the normal -400 on the other side." Ok, thanks, but that is an early screenshot and the plane is now ready for upload with correct config, correct windows, correct sheepskin seats and many more details. What a great plane to paint, thanks PMDG. (Avsim reduces pics to small so click on pic for larger image) Awesome Abdel Sotolongo Abella
February 21, 20179 yr Amazing Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
February 22, 20179 yr Seriously man?I am not trying to nit pick, but people spend hours getting the exact dimensions of logos, lettering, etc, then forget this fairly simple step. Just seems strange. This is PMDG after all... :smile: Ok, thanks, but that is an early screenshot and the plane is now ready for upload with correct config, correct windows, correct sheepskin seats and many more details. What a great plane to paint, thanks PMDG. Cheers paul, I thought it may have been a work in progress. Didn't mean any offense, but it was just something I noted on many other paints. I suppose some people may struggle with the alpha layer manipulation so just leave them as default. I will download for sure... Wes Meyer
February 22, 20179 yr I am not trying to nit pick, but people spend hours getting the exact dimensions of logos, lettering, etc, then forget this fairly simple step. Just seems strange. This is PMDG after all... :smile: Cheers paul, I thought it may have been a work in progress. Didn't mean any offense, but it was just something I noted on many other paints. I suppose some people may struggle with the alpha layer manipulation so just leave them as default. I will download for sure... I could say the same thing about almost everything else. My personal opinion is I think the panel configuration options and the registration and selcal are most important because once the door closes you can't see the paint of the aircraft just the panel configuration and the registration plate. But different people have different priorities in their flight sim. - David Lee
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