Did the RNP 26 approach, no problems aside from visibility being so poor I had to go around. Awesome!

What was your DH?

What was your DH?

My ANP was point zero something, so I used 336 on the baro per the chart on this thread. Actually had the runway in sight briefly but there was so much rain/snow I lost it and couldn't even see the edges of the runway. Don't know if it's my scenery (Orbx Juneau) or what but there wasn't much in the way of lights.

 

One thing I will say is that the rain/snow effects with ASN make visibility in heavy precipitation extremely challenging.

 

 

One thing I will say is that the rain/snow effects with ASN make visibility in heavy precipitation extremely challenging.

 

Challenging and fun.  I had a similar approach to PANC couple weeks ago, at mins I could only see runway lights and REILs no surface but that counts as the runway environment and I was able to go forward with landing.  The biggest challenge was finding the gate LOL.

Challenging and fun. I had a similar approach to PANC couple weeks ago, at mins I could only see runway lights and REILs no surface but that counts as the runway environment and I was able to go forward with landing. The biggest challenge was finding the gate LOL.

Very fun. I think the improved lighting effects make the precipitation more challenging; it looked like the landing lights were reflecting off of it. Looking back on it, I should have paused the sim, turned off the landing lights, and seen how it looked.

 

Always learning!

PAGS-PAJN RPS RNAV Rwy 26

 

< http://youtu.be/t2j2mYiq4NQ >

 

Enjoy

 

Chas

PAGS Gustavus to PAJN ...Stearmandriver's back end RNP RNAV Rwy 26 Approach into Juneau, Alaska.

 

 

Replaces overbearing background music of previous....which will not allow me to delete so I don't have a duplicate here… Anyone… Any comments as how to delete the above???

 

Thanks Stearmandriver!

 

Enjoy,

 

Chas

 

My mod of Stearmandriver's (SD)RNP RNAV PAJN Rwy 26, using my DukeTurbine2's GTN 750 to create user waypoints (FIXES)and slew to get the LATLONs absolutely correct, which SD had to ROUND OFF, so as not to jeopardize the proprietary nature of the real route.

 

THE PAJN.txt PMDG SID/STARS route will be up after I verify/debug the VNAV portion of the route.

 

Read the text of the video for more info.

Enjoy, and Thanks SD, for starting this topic!

 

This is 1920x1024, so click on the video image's YouTube logo...or, you might want to go directly to my hesynergy channel directly, if you can't view HD from here.

Chas

Chas FIXES into rwy26 RNAV approach into PAJN Juneau, Alaska. Modded StearmanDriver(SD) RNP RNAV Rwy 26 into PAJN, Juneau, Alaska.

SD gave us a cool little route that while not LATLONG nor Fixname accurate...It couldnt be without legal and occupational liabilities...and it worked, but if you look at his FixNames and the LATLONG from the PAJN.txt file for the 737 NGX he provided...it did work pretty nicely...at least as nicely as the charted RNAV course into Rwy 8.

 

I decided to create my own procedure with hand flown and verified LATLONG and altitudes safe for the NGX inside my Duke Turbine /GTN750 ...

 

Rightly or wrongly my multi-step procedure was as follows.

 

1. I took the raw info provided by SD and flew to each of his waypoints,(if you look, almost all of his FIXs were rounded off...to avoid company or legal problems) noting safe altitude, starting out at 7000ft, creating user waypoints in my GTN750, looking around for first, vertical, then horizontal safety...keeping in mind that Ultimately...I would not be using this data for my Duke, but for the Procedure page of my PMDG 737 NGX..which you already saw me fly with SD's fixes.

2. I took my Turbine Duke up and noted the REAL LATLONG as reported by slewing and world map...transposed those numbers into the format that PMDG's procedures needed DDD.mm fractional minutes. I converted using http://www.directionsmag.com/site/latlong-converter/

3.I created my own mid-point user waypoints from the west CHRTRN,and the NNE CHRTS so we could have approaches from those directions.

4. I put my Duke into autopilot, knowing the lateral info...my flightplan was correct, but I would have to handle the Vnav manually. Turns out its rather manageable with the following info

 

CHRTRN 5000FT

PAJN1 4000 FT

PAJN2 2500FT

PAJN43 1500

PAJN4 500

PAJN5 50

 

 

My MOD OF SDs RNP RNAV PAJNRwy 26, will be up on Avsim Library as PMDG 737 NGX Navdata for PAJN Juneau,Alaska for RNP RNAV Rwy 26.zip as soon as I have re-run/debugged the Vnav info..look for it today

ENJOY

Chas

I only rounded the coordinates off because I used Google Earth to create the points, and Google Earth only reports position to 3 decimal places in the degrees/decimal minutes format that the NGX needs.  That's accurate to within 360 feet... which doesn't really matter since nothing else is positioned all that accurately within the sim, and the NGX seems unable to track an LNAV course as precisely as the real plane, so the procedure had to be further modified to compensate for the slop.  So this whole thing is just a wild approximation that manages to capture the look and feel of the real approach.  I wouldn't get too hung up on precision to the .000001 level!   ;-)

 

Cool vids though!

If anyone's interested, here's a video of the RNAV RNP 05 into PAPG (Petersburg, AK):

https://youtu.be/5SrVPM_05yM

 

This one was fun to build because it's a long RF arc right onto short final, even more challenging than Juneau to build.  It helped me refine my technique quite a bit!

 

Please note this video is only to showcase how the approach works out.  It is not intended to showcase my videography skills (I have none), nor my computer's capability (minimal when it comes to gaming).  The whole video is oddly desaturated from what my monitor looks like - I obviously didn't set FRAPS up well enough.   I also don't have a joystick, I fly with the keyboard, so be merciful in your critique once the autopilot comes off.  I promise I fly the real thing a little better ;-).

If anyone's interested, here's a video of the RNAV RNP 05 into PAPG (Petersburg, AK):

https://youtu.be/5SrVPM_05yM

 

This one was fun to build because it's a long RF arc right onto short final, even more challenging than Juneau to build. It helped me refine my technique quite a bit!...f. I also don't have a joystick, I fly with the keyboard, so be merciful in your critique once the autopilot comes off. I promise I fly the real thing a little better ;-).

Thanks, SD,

 

Look forward to flying it!

 

Dude! Did you buy the NGX?....and no controls??...that's tantamount to buying a Maserati, with no steering wheel or tires.

 

Please do yourself a favor and get a decent yoke or a set of controls! We really want you to see and feel what we do using decent controls...that it makes a world of difference!

 

And by the way, invest in a TrackIR which allows you to move your head with the 6 DOF sensor(Yaw,Pitch,Roll,X,Y,Z), AND see anywhere ...wherever you want to look....you will NEVER look back!

 

...well, you will,if you use TrackIR, but you take my meaning.

 

Chas

If anyone's interested, here's a video of the RNAV RNP 05 into PAPG (Petersburg, AK):

https://youtu.be/5SrVPM_05yM

 

 

 

If anyone's interested, here's a video of the RNAV RNP 05 into PAPG (Petersburg, AK):

https://youtu.be/5SrVPM_05yM....

 

This one was fun to build because it's a long RF arc right onto short final, even more challenging than Juneau to build. It helped me refine my technique quite a bit!....

 

-).

SD, since you're video won't allow comments, I will just say;

1. Can we infer that you are a 737 FO?

...thanks, ...fun!

2. where is the PAPG.TXT FILE, AND

 

3. This reminds me a lot of the Canarsie approach into JFK Rwy 13L

 

Avsim is screwing with me again if the YouTube link between the > < is missing!!!

 

 

#####??? Use your YouTube prefix up to the "/", and add "nOafo2386yY"

 

.../;(5%>#}~>£>!!!

Chas

SD, since you're video won't allow comments, I will just say;

1. Can we infer that you are a 737 FO?

...thanks, ...fun!

2. where is the PAPG.TXT FILE, AND

 

3. This reminds me a lot of the Canarsie approach into JFK Rwy 13L

 

Avsim is screwing with me again if the YouTube link between the > < is missing!!!

 

 

#####??? Use your YouTube prefix up to the "/", and add "nOafo2386yY"

 

.../;(5%>#}~>£>!!!

Chas

 

1.  Yep, I'm an FO.  I guess most of you don't fly from the right seat huh?   I didn't think about that, it's where I usually fly the sim from since it's the view I'm used to ;-).  (Excepting some AIII approachs or low vis takeoffs with the HUD, we don't get to see that very often as FOs, only the CAs have a HUD).

 

2.  The PAPG txt file... yeah... I'm sorry, I've been a bit of a tease on this thread.  It's looking more and more like the sentiment at work is that I ought not to be sharing the current versions of these approachs (the old JNU procedure was ok).  While it doesn't seem to be technically illegal, it seems to be frowned upon, and I don't want to be "that guy", ya know??  So... no PAPG text file.

 

HOWEVER, to make up for that... 

I decided to goof around a bit in Dutch Harbor; it's somewhere we used to fly the 737-200 but that was before my time with the company... the Mud Hen has since been retired and with her went a few destinations that just aren't suitable for any of the other models of the 737 we have now.  I've always wished I could have seen some of that flying.  Now presumably if we were still doing Dutch today, we'd have an RNP approach in there, and given the terrain constraints, there's really only one way it could look.  So I went ahead and built "my" version of it, complete with a missed involving a tight turn down the channel.  I only built an approach to 13; I tried to build both a downwind with an arc to 31, and a route down the channel with a hard right turn to 31, but neither works, they're just too tight.  So landing on 31 will still need to be a visual ;-).  

 

But I've uploaded the PADU.txt file to the AVSIM library, file name:

PADU_with_RNAV_RNP_13.zip

 

My homemade procedure name in the FMC is RNVM 13.

 

Should be available shortly.  Had some fun with the fix names, I guess they're appropriate if a bit cheesy ;-).

 

Here's a Youtube video of the approach in the NGX (the 800 model).  I'm running the ORBX base scenery and I installed the Aerosoft Dutch Harbor X scenery, which makes things a bit more real.  Not the best video quality, there's obviously things I don't understand about FRAPS but oh well, it'll serve as a preview:

http://youtu.be/PHVqW149t5Y

Cool flight!....thanks AJ! ...and yup, nice scenery!

 

Listen...we all understand what a dodgy position you are in regarding ASA proprietary rights, but...

 

1. Since we know the approach exists in Real Life, and therefore is do-able...

 

A. If I were to create an RNAV RNP 05 approach into PAPG, would you feel OK about commenting on The rightness or the wrongness of the FMC approach that I come up with?

B. Is this a good place to start?

 

2. Did you ever get some controls...?

 

3. To the forum admins: How come StearmanDriver's link to YouTube was visible when mine gets deleted???

 

Regards,

Chas

1. - sure, I think I can critique your builds. Level Island (LVD) and ODECO would both make good IAFs. Basically, if you snake through the Wrangell narrows without hitting anything and are able to make a stable turn to final on a roughly 3 degree glide path, you've got it pretty correct... since there's really only one path that works!

 

2.Naw, no controls... what I enjoy most about this is marveling at the levels of scenery detail, and realism of the simulation of aircraft systems and automation. And I enjoy the freedom of having a sandbox to nerd around with this stuff in, building my own procedures etc. I hand fly quite a bit at work because, well, I like to fly... but it's not what I enjoy the most about fsx, I guess. Although I did take a Beaver on floats out of JNU to go explore the ORBX glaciers once, that was pretty cool. They need to add calving effects lol.