Sorry, but that is plain rubbish. There is nothing normal about that landing, make no mistake of that. If you can't see that from looking at the video then you know nothing about flying or aircraft. That doesn't mean the guys need to be crucified, I can certainly see how it could have happened.As a professional, you have to be able to objectively look at your work and be able to asses your performance without your ego getting in the way. If that was my landing I would be seriously analyzing it to turn it into a learning experience. This is how you improve and grow as a professional. Not just for yourself but for your trade in general.In this industry I have found that you never stop learning. No-one is trashing the guy, like I previously said, but you have to be able to look at this objectively. This is the backbone of many advances in CRM over the years, and it is why aviation is as safe as it is now a days.

So then, Mr. Eggspert! Tell us all the cross wind strength and the strength of any gusts during that landing!!And, If they were at maximum (which is likely) Tell us all how "you" would do the landing!!vololiberista

So then, Mr. Eggspert! Tell us all the cross wind strength and the strength of any gusts during that landing!!And, If they were at maximum (which is likely) Tell us all how "you" would do the landing!!vololiberista

If you read my posts you know how I feel about it. What is the big deal? Is your ego so fragile that it hurts even when others screw up?Grow up please.

If you read my posts you know how I feel about it. What is the big deal? Is your ego so fragile that it hurts even when others screw up?Grow up please.

I am fully adult thank you.My point is that you have made sweeping statements regarding at least the last video shown. You have no idea of the actual crosswind component or gusts. Clearly the video shows the aircraft close to maximum limits.vololiberista

If you read my posts you know how I feel about it. What is the big deal? Is your ego so fragile that it hurts even when others screw up?Grow up please.

I wouldn't worry too much about the comments. There's a lot of fluff that comes from that direction and I haven't quite figured out how much of it is backed up by anything other than the interwebs, thus the need to go on the offensive to defend the stance...if you know what I mean...

Good examples there Steve. I believe BA's policy on reverse is the same as ours, we operate the RB211s as well. Idle reverse unless the runway is contaminated basically, or if you have some sort of braking problem. Using reverse with normal braking action doesn't do anything extra since the auto-brake modulates to achieve a deceleration rate. Since the 400 has carbon brakes, you actually want them to warm up since they will be more effective when warm.The main reason for not using more than reverse idle on the Rollers is that they have a lot of compressor problems as a result of the last mod. The engines are subjected to a lot of stress at full reverse and it manifests itself as compressor failures in flight. Something about the rubbing of the blades with the modified ring case compressor. Anyway, RR is working on a solution for the modification, but it really makes sense to minimize the use of full reverse unless really needed. After all, brakes are cheaper than engines.That first Air France landing really shows what I was talking about as far as de-crabbing too early. You can tell he takes out the crab and then flares too high, leaving him in the air too long. As the wind starts to carry him downwind he starts lowering the upwind wing and as a result of the rocking from touching down with a bit crab, he almost strikes the number 3. The second Air France landing is quite bad as well, same effect but from an insufficient flare with no de-crab. The plane carries a lot of inertia and the rocking as it stabilizes can lead to problems. You also must consider that the struts cross-stabilize between the wing gear.Long live the whale, it truly is a great airplane. Thanks for the videos.

Are you a RW commercial pilot sir?Bert Van Bulck

Are you a RW commercial pilot sir?Bert Van Bulck

Yes, 19yrs now, commercially for 16.