October 9, 200916 yr HiI'm thinking to buy FS2Crew.What do You think about that product? Is it worth it.ThanksEdin
October 9, 200916 yr I was also interested in this program, But the more i "investigated" on fs2crew the more it seemed like more of a chore.I would also like to hear from people that have tried this program.Having said it seems like a chore, PLEASE NOTE THAT I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS PROGRAM AND COULD BE WAY OFF ON MY IMPRESSION OF THIS PROGRAM. Intel I7 12700KF / 32 GB Ram-3600mhz / Windows 11 - 64 bit / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060TI / 32" Acer Monitor, Honeycomb alpha/bravo, CH rudder pedals, Tobii 5, Buttkicker, Logitech radio panel.
October 10, 200916 yr Moderator Are you sure you understand what FS2Crew is? How can listening to your crew talk to you be a chore? :( Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 10, 200916 yr I was also interested in this program, But the more i "investigated" on fs2crew the more it seemed like more of a chore.Having said it seems like a chore, PLEASE NOTE THAT I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS PROGRAM AND COULD BE WAY OFF ON MY IMPRESSION OF THIS PROGRAM.It definitely takes a bit of getting used to, but not any more so than learning how to operate the complex aircraft FS2Crew is available for. Your first officer does most of the switch-flipping for you so it actually makes the aircraft itself easier to manage, you just have to get used to which of 2 buttons to press at any given moment.. Declared weather: FSX: ASN / FS9: ASE
October 10, 200916 yr I would like to add fs2crew to my leveld 767, but I was just wondering, with the copilot doing most of the switch flipping does it make he flight more boring or does it add much more reality to the simulator.It does sound awesome from youtube videos, im just so worried that if I pourchase it i will not use it as I like to manipulate the aircraft switches, That is the best part for me :) (although I know 767's, 747's, etc etc are not flown solo)I wish there were a demo of this program.Im off now th go check out some more videos of this program to further help me in my decision. Intel I7 12700KF / 32 GB Ram-3600mhz / Windows 11 - 64 bit / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060TI / 32" Acer Monitor, Honeycomb alpha/bravo, CH rudder pedals, Tobii 5, Buttkicker, Logitech radio panel.
October 10, 200916 yr The concept is cool but, frankly, the execution of it falls short IMHO.It is too restrictive, too scripted, too manual in that you always have to press keys to move it forward. Not the least bit truly interactive.I bought the LDS and PMDG 744 ones and never use em.
October 10, 200916 yr That is what im worried about, it seems like you have to hit the same key at certain intervals to move the program to the next phase if you will.Please correct me if im wrong as said above I have never tried this program. Intel I7 12700KF / 32 GB Ram-3600mhz / Windows 11 - 64 bit / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060TI / 32" Acer Monitor, Honeycomb alpha/bravo, CH rudder pedals, Tobii 5, Buttkicker, Logitech radio panel.
October 10, 200916 yr That is what im worried about, it seems like you have to hit the same key at certain intervals to move the program to the next phase if you will.Please correct me if im wrong as said above I have never tried this program. You summed it up very well in your first sentence! I liked it at first when using it with my LevelD 767 flying in and out of Heathrow. Now days I tend not to use it at all, It's pretty restrictive when it comes to how much the program has to offer and can become repetitive if your looking for something different every time you use your simulator for anyone who wishes for some 'virtual company' go for it but even then it still can become repetitive.Hope this helpsRegards Dan
October 10, 200916 yr The lack of SDKs I think really hinders what the FSC programmers can and would like to do.
October 11, 200916 yr It is too restrictive, too scriptedI'm sorry, but isn't that the whole point of the process in a commercial cockpit? I believe there is one flow that must be followed to the checklist.Anyways, I believe if you went realism, FS2Crew is excellent. It doesn't get boring as you still have tasks to do and then you must run through the checklists with your 1st officer. It has plenty to keep you busy. - Red E8500 @ 4.1 | EVGA 275GTX (overclocked) | 2x2GB Mushkin Enhanced Redline @ 1066 | Samsung 24inch LCD @ 1920x1080 |
October 11, 200916 yr pilot212121, You might check out Flight Deck Companion, or maybe listed as Active Cockpit. You create your own checklists for each individual a/c, along with a Performancce File. It takes time to really learn the program, but it does bring your cockpit alive. There are also more-or-less limited virtual copilot functions you can choose to use or not use.db. not cooper
October 11, 200916 yr The concept is cool but, frankly, the execution of it falls short IMHO.It is too restrictive, too scripted, too manual in that you always have to press keys to move it forward. Not the least bit truly interactive.I bought the LDS and PMDG 744 ones and never use em.Hi Mower (and Delayskid)Can you explain in what way would you like it to be more interactive? Have you given feedback on the FS2Crew forum?With every version, FS2Crew has become less and less "scripted" with the latest Voice Commander version giving you the option to freely do some very non-standard stuff, if required.However, like others have said, the real world airline SOPs everywhere are pretty much "scripted" too. You go through different "stages" during the flight, just like in FS2Crew. Taxi, takeoff, climb out, cruise etc.. and during these stages you do certain things in sequence.Bluntly said, the task of the pilot flying is to fly the plane, the pilot not flying flips switches on command and monitors things. These planes aren't flown like Cessnas where you do everything yourself. The only difference in older versions is that instead of opening your mouth, you issue commands by pressing a button.
October 11, 200916 yr "The concept is cool but, frankly, the execution of it falls short IMHO.It is too restrictive, too scripted, too manual in that you always have to press keys to move it forward. Not the least bit truly interactive."This comment, I'm afraid sums up my impression too. I can only speak about the PMDG 737 version. I had high hopes but in fact it feels too much like role playing and yes, tedious in some respects, and furthermore I need other voices and accents too. No chance of de4velopment on the PMDG 737 though?! I've gone back to FDC which can be tailored so much more and to any aircraft. Admittedely it has it's own shortcomings. Maybe the later versions of FS2crew that are 'tied' to the LDS 767 the F1 ATR and PMDG MD11 are better? I don't know. I'm sorry to be so negative because I know that this addon is very well produced and was almost entirely free of bugs on initial release and is well supported, and that is worth a lot.
October 11, 200916 yr This comment, I'm afraid sums up my impression too. I can only speak about the PMDG 737 version. I had high hopes but in fact it feels too much like role playing and yes, tedious in some respects, and furthermore I need other voices and accents too. No chance of de4velopment on the PMDG 737 though?! I've gone back to FDC which can be tailored so much more and to any aircraft. Admittedely it has it's own shortcomings. Maybe the later versions of FS2crew that are 'tied' to the LDS 767 the F1 ATR and PMDG MD11 are better? I don't know. I'm sorry to be so negative because I know that this addon is very well produced and was almost entirely free of bugs on initial release and is well supported, and that is worth a lot.Hi TingooseThe PMDG 737 version was the first ever produced, I can't even remember, maybe more than seven years ago. The user interface has advanced light years ahead since then!I doubt the old 737 will be redone, but the new NGX which is still under PMDG development, will be done using the latest voice commander technology.Out of the ones you mentioned, the MD-11 version is the latest, and most advanced in terms of user interface. The ATR version is probably the most complex (in terms of functionality), and the LDS767 version falls somewhere those two.The MD-11 version comes with three voice sets and the latest FSX default 737 version with nine. I have no doubt that the upcoming versions will include multiple sound sets as well.Comparing FS2Crew and FDC is hard, as they serve slightly different purposes and target groups. FS2Crew is tailor-made for each aircraft, can take advantage of their more advanced features and "read and write" into them. FDC, while a great software as it can be adapted to a broad range of planes, is more suited to checklist reading and functions that are common to default-type aircraft. For example, you can't make FDC press the VNAV button for you on climb-out or operate the custom anti-ice systems, just to give a few examples.There's loads of Youtube videos too that showcase the later FS2Crew versions.
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