July 6, 200322 yr Hi,I was handed off to approach at 10000 when the controller cleared me for 7000 then 2 seconds later he cleared me for 3500 feet and to intercept the localizer/glideslope, granted there was no way I could go from 10000 to 3500 in that short of time.I'm using rc31 beta. Just wondering if I did something wrong has duplicated this twice on the same flight. KHOU-KHRL.Thanks for any info.Sean
July 6, 200322 yr Sean,Actually, you are only cleared for the localizer intercept. This sounds like a straight-in approach. When you get the clearance to the final, you are responsible for flying the plate (that's what flying IFR is about). So you need to be slowing down and descending appropriately for your distance and altitude.Getting a straight-in approach is the best and most desired. Once lined up you have the time to do all the landing checks and speed reductions and altitude sets as needed. If need be, you can descend at 3000 fpm safely and comfortably in a jet.
July 6, 200322 yr Scott,Thanks for the reply, flew it a third time this morning verifying I was within the altitude constraints atc set upon me. I was only 25 miles away at 9000 feet when I was told cleared to land d/m 3100 feet. There was no way I could catch the glideslope unless I did a nose dive at 10,000 feet per minute I easily caught the localizer but was way too high on approach. I declared a missed approach and flew back around successfully.Here is the flightplan if somebody wants to verify:KHOU - Yawns - Ngp - Hrl - Khrl at fl310.Thanks,Sean
July 7, 200322 yr Sean,Okay, then that's probably related to the MSA.Fly it again and save a dat before contacting Approach. When JD gets back send the files to him (zipped, of course).
July 7, 200322 yr >Sean,>>Actually, you are only cleared for the localizer intercept. >This sounds like a straight-in approach. When you get the>clearance to the final, you are responsible for flying the>plate (that's what flying IFR is about). So you need to be>slowing down and descending appropriately for your distance>and altitude.>If need be,>you can descend at 3000 fpm safely and comfortably in a jet.Scott,I have had the above happen each time I fly the Modesto Two arrival into SFO. I am level at 10000, given a heading and new altitude of 9000. Immediately after acknowledging the descent to 9000, I am told to descend to 7000 followed immediately by the standard "xx miles from the marker, fly heading 240 intercept 28R localizer, maintain 3200 (or so) until established etc ..."So, in the process of beginning my descent out of 10000 for 9000, I am then cleared all the way down to the 3200. Yes, I could fly a 3000 fpm descent, but that is not in accordance with SOP below 10000'. ;-)-michael
July 7, 200322 yr >Michael,>>Save a dat before contacting approach and save it for when JD>gets back.>Ok - will do. -michael
July 8, 200322 yr Scott,I've flown the flight 5 times now. Next time I will save a DAT file but what I noticed is right after contracting approach I was told:"Fly Heading 265 d/m 9000" about 3 sec delay then "Cleared such and such d/m 3100 fly heading 145"I will save a DAT file and send it to you.Thanks for you help,Sean
July 10, 200322 yr Hi,I sent a DAT file to John before contacting approach for this flight that I'm seeing the problems with.Any questions just let me know.Sean
July 10, 200322 yr Commercial Member i found the problem, i think. the beta testers will be testing it for a couple of days, then i'll upload the new buildjd JD Read my blog
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