I did also my benchmark: https://youtu.be/FxOb99XPARI?si=X6GPxSAJytJ_qWsD

On 2/7/2025 at 9:36 PM, Corsten said:

I did also my benchmark:

ca. 10 fps = 25 % fps increase in VR, as expected and predicted. in other words: ca. $ 250,- per extra fps 🤣 

not 200 % to 300 % increase like in CyberPunk. there is a reason they didn't use MSFS to demo the 5090 at the launch event. 😉

13 minutes ago, turbomax said:

ca. $ 250,- per extra fps 🤣 

you're too optimistic... at current "market" price of 5090, that's $500 per extra fps. 😭

26 minutes ago, FlyIce said:

at current "market" price of 5090

I would only seriously consider a 5090 at around list price. but I might rather wait for the 6090 or until someone finally implements MultiFrame generation for VR.

what I find interesting though is my prediction of only 25 % fps increase over the 4090 has become a reality, based on mostly minor, subtle optimisations, like more CUDA cores etc, while GPU core clock frequency stays pretty much the same. similar to what we are seeing in the CPU department. only more cores and better multithreading can save us. and possibly a clock increase once TSMC can provide NVidia with 3 nm chips for their next GPU generation. 

all that MultiFrameGen thingamajig is for the birds, or the 2D monitors, unfortunately.

Edited February 14, 20251 yr by turbomax

Here's an interesting read about the potential for MultiFrame generation for VR.  Seems the resolutions used for VR are the roadblock, at least when this was written.   Unless there is a breakthrough is the current MultiFrame interpolation rendering tech, it might be a really long time before raw GPU power can overcome that limitation.  Besides, Motion/Depth Reprojection (which are available now) pretty much is multiframe generation for VR, though either of those solutions are not exactly perfect.

Looking to get a 5090 and Pimax Dream Air later this year along with a new 9800X3D computer build, mostly because MS decided to effectively deep six my beloved G2.

Edited February 15, 20251 yr by TheFamilyMan

8 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

MS decided to effectively deep six my beloved G2.

you won't miss its fresnel lens any longer once you have experienced pancakes.

"Looking to get a 5090 and Pimax Dream Air", 3840 x 3552 per eye = 27.3 MegaPixel @ 90 Hz ?

what GPU will be able to drive this even @ 30 fps when the Pimax Crystal Lite is already struggling @ 16.6 MegaPixel?

9.3 MegaPixel -  HP Reverb G2 "our beloved"

16.6 MegaPixel - Pimax Crystal Lite

27.3 MegaPixel - Pimax AirDream

you would need roughly 65% more GPU power to drive the AirDream (compared with PimaxCrystal) at similar fps.  but we saw only 25% fps increase with the 5090 over the 4090. not sure how much the AirDream's integrated eye tracking will help here. so we are looking at cutting the AirDream's fps in half or less.

"The first limited batch will begin shipping in May 2025"

yeah right, did they copy this from the RTX 5090 launch announcement?

Edited February 15, 20251 yr by turbomax

Yeah, there's a problem there with the Dream Air if one sees it that way, but it can mitigated via their software's scaling, which BTW is effectively what I have to do right now using my 3080ti driving a G2.  I'd gladly take that resolution overkill if it once and for all crushes out all screen door effect, which the G2 does ever so slightly have if one looks really close.  Besides, that resolution future proofed, 😁 right?  I agree about that May date, has Pimax ever delivered on their announced release date?  Looking to get my new build together around this November, i.e. when Win10 becomes unsupported.   Wish me luck.

As for future proofing, Meta is posturing to make OpenXR effectively a proprietary VR tech.  Check this out.

Edited February 15, 20251 yr by TheFamilyMan

1 hour ago, TheFamilyMan said:

Meta is posturing to make OpenXR effectively a proprietary VR tech.

I am on the brink of returning my new Quest 3 for a full refund. too many issues to get it even started and activated. support was of no help but suggested to return the unit for a replacement:

• Syntech Link cable could not connect via USB-C,
• Meta mobile app incompatible with my Android 14 mobile phone
• Install program says my email is connected to a business account and asks me to contact the admin 🤣