https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=rjaa

as you are arriving, and en route you may find stations to listen in, I like hearing real atc and following the flights live if I can. rjaa recently added full coverage. The GEC flight I believe carries on to rksi then back to Frankfurt. - David Lee

15 hours ago, coa1117 said:

Thanks, Michael. Flew your route yesterday, my first 10+ hour 77F trip. Set FSX to late August and departed EDDF 07C ~1849z during what Cpt. Rick from the video called "the golden hour." Payload was as described in the video and ASN had control of weather. The climb out was spectacularly beautiful.

Shortly afterwards I was flying in total darkness, but about 3 hours later the sun began peeking over the horizon. An hour or so afterward I was in full daylight. With a 50+ kt tail at FL350 most of the way I arrived RJAA 0506z on ILSZ 16R, 10h17m trip time - a bit shorter than the LH crew's flight because I took a couple of shortcuts on the arrival. 

It was a great experience and lots of fun more or less duplicating the flight in this excellent video. Thanks also to Wing Lai for the link.

I'm 2hrs 30 mins into this same flight now, which is when Captain Rick is speaking in bright sunshine. I set the date of the flight at 22nd August 2017 in ASN. So far It's still dark but I suspect given +/- an hour or so it will get light. I agree that the climb out is spectacular.

One aspect I have noted about this route is that tracks just to the south of St Petersburg (ULLI), but in the video he says that the route is to the north, which suggests to me that the route is slightly further north to the pole.

On 05/11/2017 at 7:48 PM, dmwalker said:

Did you try working it out from the chart shown at 4mins 20secs in the video? I could see waypoints GONKA, LUSIP, RIMAG and TANAM and I think you could probably identify one or two more and create a realistic route.

This is the route they took which I am guessing is the more northerly route and will break into bright sunshine after about 2.5 hours. I can't quite decipher the other way points in the plan but intend to fly this later with the same set up and a TOBA9D departure. They programmed a R/W 34 L/R arrival but ATC cleared them to 16R.

Good stuff.

On 04/11/2017 at 0:05 AM, 777200lrf said:

TOBAK N858 ERSIL UN858 ESOBU UN746 MAG DCT BODLA Z717 KUNER/K0878F330 B810 RONUN/N0474F330 L134 GARSO M990 VALGA M994 PIRUS/K0876F330 B210 OGINO R822 METAT R30 KTL R22 SONIB R813 URAMI R117 KUMIR R22 PTG R809 BAGAL/K0863F350 R809 DINEP/K0886F370 R359 LEDIS R211 TORMA A946 IVADA A333 LUTEL/K0894F390 A333 IGROD/N0482F390 Y301 SHELY/N0480F380 Y30 MELON

- David Lee

Apologies. A correction to my previous post. It's this route I am flying at the moment which tracks to the south of ULLI - not pcubines.

6 hours ago, walfob said:

I'm 2hrs 30 mins into this same flight now, which is when Captain Rick is speaking in bright sunshine. I set the date of the flight at 22nd August 2017 in ASN. So far It's still dark but I suspect given +/- an hour or so it will get light.

Looking more closely at the chart in the video at 04:20, I think I see "27 June 2017." Is that the   actual date of the flight? If so, besides their more northerly route, would this further explain why the crew was in full sunshine after just 2.5 hours into the flight?

1 hour ago, coa1117 said:

Looking more closely at the chart in the video at 04:20, I think I see "27 June 2017." Is that the   actual date of the flight? If so, besides their more northerly route, would this further explain why the crew was in full sunshine after just 2.5 hours into the flight?

If this was the actual time of the flight it would definitely explain why full sunshine occurred early in the flight. 21st June is mid summer's day in the northern hemisphere with the most hours of daylight.

In the video the time displayed on the stand (F233) is showing 20.20 UTC and it appears to be just dropping dusk. I looked up on the internet what date did sunset occur at 20.20 in Frankfurt and it gave 22nd August. So the 27 June date on the chart may just be the date the flight plan was drawn up.

26 minutes ago, walfob said:

If this was the actual time of the flight it would definitely explain why full sunshine occurred early in the flight. 21st June is mid summer's day in the northern hemisphere with the most hours of daylight.

In the video the time displayed on the stand (F233) is showing 20.20 UTC and it appears to be just dropping dusk. I looked up on the internet what date did sunset occur at 20.20 in Frankfurt and it gave 22nd August. So the 27 June date on the chart may just be the date the flight plan was drawn up.

Frankfurt Is UTC + 2 in summertime.

Sunset at Frankfurt on 27th of June 2017 was 2139 Lt, 1939 UTC.

Civil twilight from 2139 to 2224 LT., 1939 to 2024 UTC. Sun is  0 to 6 deg below horizon.

Nautical twilight from 2224 to 2329 Lt., 2024 to 2129 UTC. Sun is 6 to 12 deg below horizon.

Astronomical twilight from 2329 Lt. 2129 UTC. and all night.

Interested in more? Go here: http://www.torbenhermansen.dk/almanak

1 hour ago, soerennielsen said:

Sunset at Frankfurt on 27th of June 2017 was 2139 Lt, 1939 UTC.

Soeren, thanks for this and the link. Very helpful.

Thanks, Soeren. That looks like it's cleared up the date and local time of the flight.

 

I was just checking Flightradar24 and it shows LH8386 departing on June 27 as D-ALFD and flying a more southerly route.

D-ALFA departed on June 26 at 10:29 pm local time and arrived at Narita at 4:12 pm local time. It reached an altitude of 37,000 ft.

On 11/8/2017 at 11:55 AM, dmwalker said:

I was just checking Flightradar24 and it shows LH8386 departing on June 27 as D-ALFD and flying a more southerly route.

D-ALFA departed on June 26 at 10:29 pm local time and arrived at Narita at 4:12 pm local time. It reached an altitude of 37,000 ft.

Dugald, Thanks for this. I'm pretty sure the aircraft in the video is D-ALFA because during the exterior inspection "FA" is visible on the front gear door at 09:38. But the departure and arrival times for 26 June don't match those in the video. If I really strain my eyes again to determine the date on the chart in the video it might be 23 June 2017. Could you maybe check the aircraft assignment and the route in FlightRadar24 for that date? Thanks a lot.

On 05/11/2017 at 7:48 PM, dmwalker said:

I could see waypoints GONKA, LUSIP, RIMAG and TANAM and I think you could probably identify one or two more and create a realistic route.

The additional waypoints are ARBUL and DENOM, which are valid, but I can't make out the last one.

 

D-ALFA is confirmed at 14:18 of the video.

EDDF is UTC + 02:00 so 10.29 pm is 22:29 which is 20:29 UTC.

RJAA is UTC + 09:00 so 4.12 pm is 16:12 which is 07:12 UTC.

I believe these times match the video.

This was the only flight which matched the video, from Stand F233 at EDDF to Stand 208 at RJAA. Almost all of the LH8386 flights took a more southerly route and one took a more northerly route.

At 1:00:25 of the video you can see the route from IGROD onward. Since DINOM and IGROD are both on A333, the flight must follow A333 continuously so, if you go to SkyVector.com, you should be able to identify more waypoints.

I rest my case.

4 hours ago, dmwalker said:

I rest my case.

Well done! Thanks.

In case anyone is still looking for the route they used, this is what I've got (based on everything further up in this thread, plus trying to roughly match the pre-Russia waypoints you can see at 4:20). Probably not perfect, but pretty close:

TOBA9D TOBAK DCT UVANO Y150 TOLGI DCT HLZ DCT BODLA Z717 KUNER B810 RONUN DCT RONUS DCT TITOV M994 PIRUS R367 NASBI G722 ARKUK B152 RIMAG A333 IGROD Y301 SHELY Y30 SWAMP SWAMSB

James

thanks for the info flying this exact route on vatsim right. now around 600 miles to go, the so called golden hour was really nice, much the same as depicted in the video.

regards graeme.