PA32 Saratoga II TC FSX | P3D Latest Topics

2020 New Purchase

Tue, 07 Apr 2020 16:54:51 +0000

For those who want to fly this plane with an RXP GTN 750 + GNS 430, I can offer up some AP mods etc.

Also read the Gear Warning Fixed topic to the bottom. Why Alabeo has not fixed this obvious problem is beyond me..

[contact_points]
static_pitch = 0
static_cg_height = 4
max_number_of_points = 13

point.0 = 1, -2.2, 0.0, -2.9, 1500, 0, 0.6, 38, 0.20, 2.3, 0.5, 2.5, 3.5, 0, 135, 155
point.1 = 1, -10.5, -4.8, -2.9, 1500, 1, 0.8, 0, 0.20, 1.6, 0.5, 5.0, 7.0, 2, 135, 155
point.2 = 1, -10.5, 4.8, -2.9, 1500, 2, 0.8, 0, 0.20, 1.6, 0.5, 5.2, 7.2, 3, 135, 155

I think i fixed the gear warning to work

Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:49:18 +0000

I read the other postings and since I have almost all the Alabeo and Carenado aircraft I figured I would look up one that uses the warning sound and how it is set up. I only tested this once at KFHR and was to excited to wait and post. IF I made a mistake I will repost with a fix.

[gear_warning_system] THIS IS THE CHANGE I MADE TO THE SARATOGA AND SEEMS TO WORK
gear_warning_available=1
//pct_throttle_limit=0.35 original
pct_throttle_limit=0.15    //Percent throttle that activates warning
flap_limit_power=41        //Flap angle that activates warning at idle
flap_limit_idle=0        //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle
reference used from alabeo M20 mooney

//Percent... //Flap....and //Flap were written on the M20 mooney WHICH explains WHAT it does. The flap_limit power was one number past the last flap setting. I raised the landing gear with flaps at first setting and the warning came back on coming into KFHR. I put the landing gear down and it went off. When landed there was no warning again. I powered to idle on taxi and no warning sound.

This is the Saratoga flap settings note: last setting is position 3 @ 40 so I put down 41. I will post the M20 mooney setttings so if you do not own it you can see it.

[Flaps.0]
type          = 1 THIS IS TO THE SARATOGA
span-outboard  = 0.45
extending-time  = 6
system_type  = 0
flaps-position.0 = 0
flaps-position.1 = 10
flaps-position.2 = 25
flaps-position.3 = 40
damaging-speed  = 115
blowout-speed  = 120
lift_scalar   = 1.0
drag_scalar   = 1.0
pitch_scalar  = 1.0

[Flaps.0] THIS IS TO THE ALABEO M20 MOONEY
type=1
span-outboard=0.7                               // Percent span for flap position
extending-time=5                                // Seconds, time to fully extend
system_type=0                                   // 0 = electrical
damaging-speed = 204                           // KIAS
blowout-speed   = 209                           // KIAS
flaps-position.0= 0
flaps-position.1=10
flaps-position.2=33

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=1
pct_throttle_limit=0.15
flap_limit_power= 34
flap_limit_idle= 0

RXP 430 in the panel

Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:54:57 +0000

Has anyone come up with a panel.cfg edit to put the RXP 430 in? I've done it in other planes that don't come with a configurator (older offerings, mostly) but this one has me stumped. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

Does this have complete control surface animation?

Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:16:03 +0000

Do all the trim control surfaces work on the Saratoga? I had an old Carenado or Alabeo plane in which the elevator trim animation was non existent (it might have been the Cessna182RG). That plane really soured me on Alabeo and Carenado products. It made me understand why people complained about Carenado or Alabeo products. Thanks.

VS Autopilot not working

Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:09:30 +0000

Hello everyone. I have a problem in my Saratoga the autopilot does not respond when i am selecting the VS function (i put any positive or negative value but not working sometimes i cannot put any value at all) , while the HDG switch seems to work normally. I did not have this problem in the beginning, after 3-4 flights i am unable to control the trim through the autopilot. Any help appreciated.

German Repaint

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:57:41 +0000

Hello,

i modified the original Alabeo-Paint just a litle bit to make it an Airplane with a german sign. Hope you'll like it too...

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=goertz&CatID=p3dacrp&Go=Search

Greetings from Germany

Raller

Gear Down Warning and no steering on Ground- Partially fixed

Fri, 06 Feb 2015 03:38:51 +0000

Ok guys, I think I figured out is causing the issue. When I first received the aircraft, I had no problems with the gear warning until I chose a different model. Some models create this problem. The one I'm not having problems with is the very last one- red and white. I'll contact Alabeo and let them know about the issue. Hope this helps.

Weird "Gear Down" warning behavior

Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:50:24 +0000

The warning sound for gear down with low throttle sometimes sticks on and nothing short of resetting the aircraft stops it. Also with gear down already it will start when I add the second notch of flaps no matter what the throttle setting. Any one else seen this?

THanks

Steve

Mouse Pointer is always active

Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:20:43 +0000

Hello,

i fly the PA32 Saratoga II TC in P3D v3.3.5 and i wonder, that the mouse pointer in every view is always "aktive". If i point the mouse over a knob in VC, it works fine. But if the mouse-pointer is somewhere else on the screen, it stays "active"!

So it is impossible to make a right-klick somewhere on the screen, for eg. to change the view. No matter if i am in the virtual cockpit or in the outside view, the mouse-pointer is always "aktiv". Everything works fine, but it bothers me, that i can't use a right-klick on the screen to get into the P3D-Menu.

Can someone confirm this condition? Is that a bug? Has someone a solution to fix that?

Greetings from Germany

Raller

What are "GND CLEAR" & TKS MAX/NORM?

Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:46:01 +0000

Anyone know the purposes of these switches below the GPS unit?

EDIT: Did some Googleing and evidently the TKS switch is for the anti-ice system and the GND CLEAR stands for ground clearance and allows you to turn on the COM1 radio without having to fire up the whole avionics bus. BTW, the GND CLEAR isn't functional it seems and probably not the TKS either.

Steve

Trim Indication

Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:18:35 +0000

Hi,

Where can you view elevator trim setting? Thanks.

Bob

Alabeo - PA32 Saratoga rudder problem after landing

Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:00:08 +0000

Hi all - I love this little airplane but for some reason, after landing, I seem to have little control in making turns, When I taxi for takeoff, all is perfect. The moment I land, however, I need to use brakes and steering to turn the plane.

Any advice?

Any plans for GTN 650 Integration?

Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:02:25 +0000

The GTN 750 in this a/c is truly awesome, and I would love to have the GTN 650 companion, instead of the NAV2/COM2 handled by the GNS 430. According to the panel guru, Bert, over at simforums.com there is no way for this to be implemented by anyone other than Alabeo. I haven't heard anything from Alabeo about plans for the full 750/650 implementation, but maybe somebody else knows something I don't?

PA32 Saratoga with GTN750 - Great Experience!

Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:31:21 +0000

I recently bought Flight1's GTN750 with the intention to use it with A2A's great C182. Unfortunately, this combination turned ou to be a real frame hog (C182 with GTN750 shows a 20 to 30% frame drop compared to default GPS or RXP530). It might have something to do with A2A's 3D modelling of the GTN750 frame and will hopefully be solved. Anyway, I gave Alabeo's new PA32 a try and this is a great experience. The PA32, as greatly described in detail in Avsim's recent review, is a really charming GA airplane! It looks great and it flies great! And above all it works perfectly with the GTN750 ... without significant FPS loss compared to the default GPS.

The only little drawback so far: With the current GTN750 integration you loose the DME function (not simulated in the GTN750 ...). In order to overcome this lack I replaced the now needless transponder unit wit the FSX default DME unit. It doesn't look great but it works. Maybe somebody has a link to a better looking DME unit for FSX?

Alabeo PA32 My Thoughts (P3D)

Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:57:43 +0000

I bought it because I really like the GTN 750 - this is all from P3D btw

All around for 30 bucks its decent. I like how it handles. It's not a super fast single but it could carry a few bodies and luggage far away and at high altitudes. I did a short flight at lower level cruise (6000) and got about 167 ktas at best power (well 80% per the manua; - 32" 2400rpm, leaned). Since it is TCed it will go a lot higher and I think this plane typically would be a long hauler type with O2 onboard. Anyway it flies well.

At night and day it looks pretty well. Typical Carenado flood interior lighting with one switch for alphanumerics backlighting. There's blue OH lighting as well. In the daytime there's a nice gauge reflection at certain angles, gives the panel depth. There's not really "systems depth" but I didn't expect much, this being from Alabeo. I kinda hoped it was 25 bucks but inflation I guess lol! I do use the GTN 750 installed - the nav2 is carenado's default-based 430 gauge. There's no DME which I had hoped they'd put in. (I requested one because unlike the RXP 530W which will display distance and radial from a VOR tuned to NAV1, the GTN750 doesn't have this feature. Apparently the word on the street is that Garmin forgot to transfer the feature from their old 530 and a new hardware update will happen for RW users at some point with this very feature. I doubt we'll see it in the F1 version but maybe! Anyway for now I tune the carenado GNS430 to a VOR if I need distance info).

The sounds, IMHO, are not a strong point. They sound muffled and fake inside and out. I guess the exterior idle sounds decent but at full power the exterior sounds like default piston of some sort. I'm not at all familiar with this engine in real life so maybe it's accurate. Still muffled outside at times though. Interior is pretty bad and I wish they modeled ANR headsets like A2A does - where you click the headphone jack that's really nice.

There appears to be a aural checklist on the main panel but it doesn't work. I remember something like this unit in the old FS2002 F1 Meridian. The Orbx Lancair IV-P also has it (and it works too). The engine monitor panel works in general... you can rotate through the various functions with the knob. Autopilot operation is pretty much typical Carenado (hate it or like it hehe). The transponder zero issue has finally been fixed (for a while they were using the same gauge code over and over - anytime user entered a zero digit there was a blank space hehe). There's a weeping wing anti ice switch, pitot heat of course. There's labels for stormscope but not a unit in the panel lol. There's A/C at the far far right panel. Fuel usage says LEFT and RIGHT but both tanks are running out at the same rate. Must be the old "BOTH" bug leftover from my default aircraft flight.

And the TAS calc does sort of work - it's not as nice as the Realair Legacy or Dukes but it works you just can't accurately set the dial - it's more like +/- 2 degrees.

Repaint request

Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:09:44 +0000

Could someone do a repaint of the Alabeo Saratoga II TC with the N number N265CA

Saratoga II TC repaints

Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:44:37 +0000

I'm surprised that there is no US Saratoga II TC repaints for this amazing aircraft

Quickie Review PA32

Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:33:18 +0000

Love it, Easy as heck to fly. SOLID autopilot in IMC. I really enjoy this one. Using it on charters in Alaska and can't be happier. Thanks Alabeo.

Where to tune an NDB ?

Sun, 07 Dec 2014 16:54:16 +0000

Hi,

maybe this is a stupid question, but I am not able to find, where to tune an NDB. The only thing I can find ist he ADF button on the audio panel.

Thank you

Bruno

Saratoga II TC around the USA

Wed, 24 Dec 2014 03:04:36 +0000

I'm starting to plan another around the USA trip whether I'll complete this one is yet to be seen but I know I'm going to be very determined this time I don't know which direction I want to go this time the Northern Route or Southern Route?

Landing lights flashing

Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:41:55 +0000

Hi I find that when I have the landing lights dim when the panel lights are on. After turning on the panel lights the landing and taxi lights are again bright lights and inside the VC you can still see the landing lights.

Darryl

Nose-high attitude during approach and landing

Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:03:17 +0000

There is one point I would like to mention about the PA32's flight dynamics: It generally feels very believable (including stalls and sideslip), except the somewhat exaggerated nose-high attitude during final approach and flare. Based on my RW flying with Cherokees and Archers and watching some Saratoga landing videos I tried a slight correction with a simple aircraft.cfg mod:

pitch_scalar = 1.9 // original seting: 1.0

This leads to a more expectable landing attitude and to an even greater landing experience with this attractive GA aircraft.

Saratoga II TC looks and flies great.

Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:28:32 +0000

I installed it around noon today and have been flying and checking out the details. Looking good so far.

Regards,

Ray

Rotating Beacon Switch

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:26:06 +0000

I could not locate the rotating beacon switch. Not located with the other lighting switches. Does this aircraft have one? Or is it labeled with another name

Thanks,

Mike Cameron

Follow the Magenta Line

Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:55:11 +0000

Just purchased and really liking this bird especially as it comes equipped with GTN750 integration. Simple question here...I can't get the AP to follow the magenta line!! Tracking in heading mode is ok but when I switch to NAV mode on the AP the PA32 seems to aimlessly turn in circles?? Yes I have GPS enabled on the GTN750 as the source for the HSI but for some reason it does not follow the magenta line?