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The end of Microsoft Flight?

Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:28:10 +0000

Hey everyone,

I really enjoy playing Microsoft Flight, and find that is by far the best flight sim experience with regard to missions, graphics, engine, etc and runs pretty good on relatively low-spec systems. However, it seems that since around a month or so Microsoft has rendered Microsoft Flight installation impossible, likely due to the launch of the new Microsoft flight simulator. Fortunately, I still have a copy of the game installed on my computer at home, but I am currently out of town for college so can't use it. Has anyone had sucess in installing the game lately? Are some parts of the game starting to break? Does anyone have an alternative install file or could someone share their install directory? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

Flight Forum Closed!

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:08:27 +0000

We have done something today that we have never done before in our entire 15 year history. We have closed down posting privileges for all users on a specific forum. The FLIGHT forum in this case. Despite not so subtle hints, suspension of users, and deletion of topics, some have persisted in trashing the forum from both sides of the "aisle" so to speak. We have had enough.The forum will remain readable, as an example of how embarrassingly childish and parochial some can be. On the 29th, once FLIGHT is released, we will delete EVERY message in that forum and reopen it. We will open it with its own stringent set of rules. The topic of FLIGHT will not be allowed to just migrate to other forums.

Even if it was just an R-22

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:51:49 +0000

I'm pleased with the potential I see in MS Flight and look forward it's official release. With Hawaii (Big Island) as the start point for it's launch with the full islands available as DLC it would have been nice to have a helicopter available as DLC at the start. The classic Bell 206 would have been nice, but even an R-22 would do. Being aimed at bringing in new simmers in is fine but I think MS missed the boat by ignoring a large portion of our community.In the real world choppers are used extensively in the islands so it's puzzling to me why they have been left out at the start. I realize that in terms of "new simmers" a chopper may pose some problems flying if your using only a mouse so not including it in the core package makes sense. As DLC on day one a chopper would have been a much better choice than a VC-less P-51 IMO.Just think MS dropped the ball here.

A Rare Flight forum positive post

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:37:22 +0000

You know I've been flying around in the beta these last few days before I loose it. For a low and slow flight game the scenery, graphics, performance, ground detail and easter eggs with animations in the game ain't bad. I was thinking today how sucky the default FSX scenery is. Also how many hundreds and hundreds of dollars I would have to spend to get my FSX looking decent, or at least to the default scenery level of Flight.LOOK I think it's stupid they way they are launching it and the way they are selling the little super expensive pieces and how they have turned this into a game from a sim... I think flying with a mouse or keyboard is stupid and those dumb aerochaches or flight rings you have to fly through are for a 5 year old...But it appears the core system here is pretty awesome.The performance is 30+ at maximum for me and my system if 5 years old..The level of detail in the trees, roads, water, airplane, buildings and airports is pretty dang amazing for a core product. I really have enjoyed flying in FlightAlso the missions I have flown are leaps and bounds of what I have flown in FSX. The experience of a the missions are very real life feeling.Will anyone get rid of FSX for many years to come.. NO.. me neither.. but as a secondary experience I think I'm gonna enjoy it and probably purchase some stuff I am interested in. I mean if you compare the x-plane 10 demo and the Flight Beta Flight wins with a knock out.Peace

Petulance and tantrums

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:39:11 +0000

I was just going to reply to a post in a separate thread, but the more I look through this forum, the more I am saddened by our own community, so I shall start a new thread and open myself to personal commentary from my peers...Hey... I have just realised... technically I am a 3PD too. OK, I don't make models and I have only done a couple of sceneryettes for Misty Moorings, but in my "EagleSkinner" life I have painted a couple of hundred different aircraft. Apparently some people think my lavatory even smells nice (sic). I did spend a lot of time with the SDKs for both FS9 and FSX - even though I really dislike html books (I much prefer paper - it's great for post.its). So I think I do qualify for the epithet "Third Party Developer" in that I have developed a fair few painting techniques of my own.So... am I a pi##ed off 3PD? Nope! I can already see ways of adding paints into the pak files and I am sure other 3PDs out there have looked at the pak tools on the market. It won't take long for people to figure out ways of inserting their own paints and even airplanes. The main question is will they want to? From the available leaks I really would say Flight! makes a start in the right direction. At the moment MS are dedicating a very small budget into developing it - sort of "Lick your finger and hold it to the wind" affair. I don't believe that all is yet lost.My real worry is that all this internecine squabbling within the flight simulation community is really letting the side down. The average age of a dedicated flight simmer is upper forties I believe, and having attended a few flightsim shows and fairs I would judge even older (the last symposium had more grey hair than a Schwarzkopf advert and more hairless pates than an egg farm). To be brutally honest (even if it does mean I include myself) I think that this austere community has well and truly shot itself in its own feet! Talk about childish behaviour! I see nothing but petulance in far too many posts with comments along these lines:"I can't fly jets in Flight! so I am going to sulk and stamp my tiny feet in rage until Microsoft do what I want them to do.""Flight only wants me to fly through hoops! that is sooooo silly! I want to fly from Boston to Atlanta in a "boebus. MS doesn't care what we think.""Only Hawaii is free, after that we have to buy the world in slices. MS is a money sucking leech!""Third party developers will lose business.""Third party developers are such boors."I feel a growing shame that I find myself in the midst of such a community. There are more flames here now than in many a "game" forum I have visited. Granted - many of the flamethrowers are at least polite about it, but having been at the end of some pretty vile four-lettered personal attacks by some anal retentive moronic twerp who can't even spell simple English words (that person is, by the way, a "native speaker" and most likely even British, to judge by his use of the vernacular) I really have begun to question the current sanity of what has otherwise been a very solid community over the years.If I were a teenager, just embarking on a game career of the flying kind, I would be thinking twice and thrice about sticking it out amongst such hate. I would even venture a return to WoW and Skyrim and even PONG! I may even return to Microsoft online backgammon rather than play with this infantile crowd of geriatric dementia.Yes, seriously folks! These threads are beginning to read like a day in an old age pensioner's home. There's old so-and-so sitting in his bath chair, drooling into his lap and muttering about the good old days. Oh, and look over there! There you see mister angry, lying in his soiled bed, enjoying it. Oh yes - the old colonel is there too, threatening to shoot "those damned natives" if they dare trespass on his farm.I could go on, but what I am really hoping for is a spark of optimism and seeing people look upon Flight! as an opportunity and not an enema take-over bid (deliberate typo!) Very soon there could be hundreds of new people interested in flight (lower case) and wanting to know more. Instead of frightening them off with tales of horror and woe, we should welcome them with open arms and show them just how much fun flight really is.As a footnote, I will also add that in real life I have been to real world flying clubs and also met this kind of hostility towards newcomers - it does happen and groupings like that do exist. All I can say is that not all clubs are full of po-faced sticklers who think that change is bad. I am glad that I can chose to go to other clubs and find a more pleasant community. ...And in the current case I sincerely hope that we can turn the tide here at Avsim and remain the pleasant, open, helpful and informative community I have enjoyed for the past 7 years.

MS admits loyal FS fan can jump off a bridge

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:51:07 +0000

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/technologybrierdudleysblog/2017460350_qa_microsoft_flight_boss_on.html"Q: It seems like the tradeoff you made - building richer, smaller locales to explore in the game - is the loss of the full, open world that could be explored in "Flight Simulator"?A: The bet we've made is that to the non-hardcore simmer, flying the whole world isn't as interesting when there's nothing really interesting to see or do. I do get that for some segment of the audience that was one of the values - I can fly anywhere, into any airport, 25,000-odd airports was crazy.But I think as you try to broaden and you want to bring in not the next million or two but the next 20 million or 30 million people, you say I will err on the side of more interesting area that's dense than the same amount of content spread all over the globe. There's a lot to do in Hawaii, and Hawaii is gorgeous."So basically screw us million loyal flight sim fan cause their are 20 million more with cash. Sorry but this is flawed judgement, the casual gamer is not going to pay for this, they are just not and the hard-core simmers have already run for the exits. My blood is once again boiling over this interview - I really hope MS does a crash and burn on this one for the good of all us prior faithfull customers.

Seems like MS wants to force us into DLC

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:16:57 +0000

There could be little chance of seeing airliners released this year for Flight, but this also raises another question, could this mean the end of flying aircraft for our favorite airlines? Could the DLC system be clamped down as to not let us repaint aircraft into our favorite liveries?Even if they do give us airliners, we might only see ones currently in production, so this could mean no classic airliners

Why no cockpit on Mustang?

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:18:12 +0000

Anyone else find it strange that a cockpit for the DLC Mustang isn't going to be available? It's not like there would be much to model as it is a pretty sparse panel-- so that can't be it I wouldn't think.My guesses...1. MS is testing the Mustang as a DLC option to include cockpits. So you would buy the Mustang and later buy a cockpit. Cha-Ching.2. MS is afraid that people will crash the higher performance Mustang and become frustrated so they gave an outside view that would be more forgiving.

Question for all the pi##ed 3PD about Flight...

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:27:19 +0000

Why are some of you so mad about Flight been closed to you (3PD), as I understand, from some of your post, Flight will be a BIG flop, so why are you so mad?As some of you also said or think, Flight will only release small regions, so if I take that in consideration, how many of you (3PD) would it take to cover an area like Hawaii, so does MS really need 3PD for such small area like that?Can you not keep making addons for FSX?Why bother with Flight if you all think that it will be dead in the water in a matter of weeks or months, I don't get it......or is it that you may be secretly scared of the fact that Flight may take off (pun intended) and by doing so addons for it will be a hit and you'll be left in the dust?So, if Flight is to be a major flop (according to some of you 3PD) there is no threat to you, so why bashing the product....FSX still there is it not?

This doesn't look promissing ...

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:17:40 +0000

http://flightsimplaz.../fsblog/?p=1480I know it's just one more voice, but after reading this, i know for sure that i shall download it and test it very thoroughly ....( Sorry: title must be 'This doesn't look promising' , can't edit that ... )

What this forum looks like to a new simmer

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:40:38 +0000

This is a Post from Garsand, About the general attitude here in the Flight forum. Read it carefully, and examine how someone would feel if they came here, looking for fun, knowledge, and how to stick those damn ILS landings, lol

So in a post that I am told that at AVSIM there a very friendly bunch, the first thing that happened is a member attacked a fellow member of AVSIM.That was not very friendly, an that is what's been happning to me, I keep on getting attacked by FSX fans because I chose to like MS Flight.In the 10-15 years that I have been followling games online I have never come across such strage behavior. I don't go around nor do I feel any need to go around & attack there joy of FSX. Nor any other game that I don't like.So why do they do it to me?I can't even ask for help, I am scared to, as I don't want the hate posted at me. I am fedup with it.But I am told this >> a little respect in how you deal with other members is a requirement.Would the respect be if I say I need help for FSX tho really its MS Flight I need the help with but I have to keep it as my dirty little secret.If anyone wishes to prove me wrong & show me that AVSIM is a friendly place for new MS Flight users then please do.

This is how Avsim looks to an outsider.

DLC, or how to make gamers into addicts

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:50:31 +0000

My latest blogpost. As I struggled to find something positive about DLC I thought I'd submit it here for comments. I might have missed something. I think the subject is interesting since Flight and most Microsoft games seem to adopt the DLC model.Microsoft Flight is just one of many games these days that are offered through a downloadable content (DLC) model. With DLC one usually refers to additional content offered as an expansion to a game. Subject to many critical articles in the press the DLC model is controversial. Just like gambling, acquiring DLC content can become an addiction, especially for young gamers.DLC is nothing new. It has been there since the 1990s when Internet use took off like a rocket. In the early days DLC was mostly about free bonus content offered to buyers of games, magazines, movies and CDs. In the gaming industry it was Sega with their Dreamcast that paved the way for connecting consoles to the Internet in the late 1990s. Today most consol makers have followed suit, but Microsoft was the first company to charge for DLC with their Xbox game Mech Assault in 2002. Apple on the other hand refined the DLC model for smartphones and tablets with their App Store. Now DLC is an important revenue stream for all the major consol makers, and the model is winning increasing support on the PC platform as well. So what’s the controversy?To start things off, lets first take a look at some of the positive aspects of the DLC model. Without a doubt it makes distribution a lot easier for both user and creator. Usually one buys the base package retail, then use a DLC store to acquire additional content and updates of sorts. Interestingly that is the only positive aspect, from a consumer standpoint, of DLC I could find while doing research for this article. Logic dictates that easier distribution should make DLC cheap, but that is rarely the case. The trend is that games are being watered down in terms of content while DLC is becoming increasingly expensive and necessary to have if you want to play the game to its full potential. In reality most DLC games are costlier than the traditional retail games, often missing the box/cover and manuals featured in games of the past.The big controversy is how DLC makes kids addicted to buying new content. Games are competitive in nature and in most cases buying DLC is the only way to win or increase ones status in the games. For instance the retail version of a racing game comes with only a few slow cars. To have any chance of winning you’ll have to get new cars. Among friends – offline or online – competition can become fierce and fuel unhealthy addictive behavior. Microsoft’s Rock band takes the cake. If you were to get all the DLC it would cost you more than $2000! Most modern DLC games also seem to lock out freeware third party developers.To make things even fuzzier some providers don’t charge for DLC in real currency but has invented a point system to confuse buyers as to what things really cost. In addition some sell these points in bulk, meaning that if you want to buy a 1000 point addon, you’ll have to buy a minimum of 2000 points, hence wasting 1000 points that you either can’t use at all, or spend it on content that you really didn’t want in the first place.A final open question is what happens to DLC as time goes by? I still play games from the 1980s on my PC. With never games consisting of fragmented parts locked to certain devices and online portals the game might end up completely obsolete in a few years. That is yet another reason why DLC should be a lot cheaper than traditional games and expansion packs.Based on my research I’ve taken a stand on this. I will never buy into a DLC game constructed like a pyramid scheme. DLC should be reserved for bonus content and real expansion packs at a fair price reflecting its real value. As of today DLC is becoming increasingly unethical targeting young kids and naive parents.Microsoft Flight seems to be one of the worst games in terms of value. They say it is free, but in reality you only get a demo – don’t be fooled. You can still get FSX for free. It’s a called the St. Marteen demo, so it’s nothing new. Additional content for Flight is expensive and of course necessary to elevate your pilot’s status. If you’re the competitive kind you can easily waste a lot of money for something that should have been included in a fairly priced base package instead.

Forgive my ignorance but...

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:45:27 +0000

Hello,Please forgive my ignorance but I am totally confused about Microsoft Flight. I must confess this mainly my ignorance but also due to confusion posts I have read.Is Flight a totally new sim or is it just a free download that is not for the "serious" simmers?Is it the case that you can only fly within a certain area and not worldwide?If it is a completely new sim , will you be able to run all the exisiting add-ons like PMDG?Thank youPaul

My take on MS Flight... and the future of simming

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:19:32 +0000

After posting my thoughts on my blog, word got out.... also onto Facebook where I spend most of my days nowadays.I had a brief encounter with Paul Lange, the man I see as the driving force behind MS Flight (he sure was behind theFSX Missions) and decided maybe someone here too is interested to get my views on what's happening........ or, in terms of flight SIMULATION on what is NOT happening. But should..... Find my blog post here.And as I already explained to Paul, this is not 'hate mail', just my opinion of what we as a flightsim community are missing....

Online connection required?

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:28:55 +0000

Hi Folks, Does anyone know if we'll have to be online in order to use Flight?thanks Howard

Why I am not happy with MS and Flight

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:48:28 +0000

I am not really sure why, but stupidity has always frustrated me. Okay I was trying to preserve some dignity; I should have said ' it angers me'. I know it is a flaw with me, not with those I perceive to be stupid. But I think I might not be alone with this flaw. Watching what MS is doing with Flight is like watching a car wreck about to happen. I would yell at the driver and tell him he is going on the wrong direction on the freeway, but he refuses to listen. After several attempt at trying to tell him to change course, my evil self tells him " Okay fine..You should get what you deserve" (how many of you are wishing for failure of Flight?). I have realized that my anger and frustration is not about another person's stupidity, but about my inability to affect the stupidity and thus the result. Frank

FAA Approved Flight Training with Consolization

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:19:01 +0000

This isn't a debate about if flight is gonna be a good or bad game. This is a debate about the possible consolization of MS Flight, the merits of Microsoft flight being used for FAA training and the future of the aviation industry as a whole.From the get go, Microsoft flight doesn't feel like it's primary market is PC gamers. We already have FSX, X-plane, and a whole list of other flight simulators that are far better then 'Flight' and it's current offerings, and probably future offerings for that matter too. However on the console market these offerings are new and unavailable, making them more realistic for that market then our own. The Xbox 360 is well above the specification to handle MS Flight (remember that you need vastly less ram on a consoles) and when you combine this with what has been said in recent interviews, that MS is targeting the next 30 million, instead of the next 3 million -that to me sounds like a conformation that this game was made from the get go, to be put on the Xbox 360.I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just don't see why they would release a game like this otherwise, unless their stupid, and their not. We should know that much about MS by now. So in my mind, Flight is probably going to be regarded as "console trash" by the PC gamer crowd. Hardcore simmers will probably just have a heart attack but, I digress.I don't really care if MS Flight is console trash or not, that's not why I play flight simulators. The reason I play flight simulators, and the reason flight simulators were made in the first place, was to teach people how to fly airplanes. That's what is important about a flight simulator to me. For all anyone knows, playing one of those missions in MS flight could save your life in the real world someday. And how much is that worth!?On the other hand, MS flight could be terrible for training pilots. I hope not, but if it is then regard this game as the console trash that it is, and scold it back to the depths of hell from whence it came! Otherwise, I think there is a lot of potential here, especially if MS and the FAA teamed up to try and get more pilots certified.If Flight becomes big on consoles then undoubtedly there will be console hardware, and eventually someone will put together a simulator using the Xbox 360 and Flight, but why wait? I think it would behoove Microsoft to start working with the FAA right away making custom hardware for real-world flight training to sell to the mass market on the 360. The advantages here would be immense.*First the FAA could check your hardware setup using the internet via Xbox Live. There would be little need for an FAA inspector to come over and check your hardware because once you've seen one Xbox 360, you've seen them all.*It would be easy for end users to set up, because everything would just be plug and play. The consumer buys the simulator hardware and plugs it into the Xbox 360, congrats you now have an FAA-approved flight simulator.*Using Xbox live the FAA could keep track of what pilots know and what they don't know, far increasing the knowledge base to accurately train pilots and streamlining annual proficiency checks.*The availability and affordability for pilot training would increase, thus increasing the number of certified pilots that has been in decline since the 70s.*Flight simulators would be cool again.The way I see it, if people are willing to pay for Rockband 3, then people would probably be willing to pay for an FAA-approved flight simulator: So long as they can get real FAA flight training out of it. It could totally revolutionize the way the FAA operates too. What happens when the FAA figures out that if a pilot plays a few challenging missions in flight that they become drastically less likely to make mistakes in the real world? Would it not be easier to just use flight simulators for training?It's really the next logical step for Microsoft and Flight Simulator. The Aviation industry as well. MS Flight could be the end of the end for Flight simulator, or it could be the beginning of something totally new and revolutionary.

If you like Aerofly FS, you'll LOVE FLIGHT!

Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:07:53 +0000

Here's why I say this:I've been flying Aerofly FS for about 3 weeks now (FSX is still my "go to" sim) and it's quite good. It's ONLY Switzerland. The flight models are beautiful, and the scenery is "so-so". It's fun for a diversion from FSX and the sounds are excellent. However, it is very easy to get a little bored with the limitations of Aerofly. There is no REAL weather, and you can't pick out any airport and necessarily be on the ground. Sometimes the only choice is to be "in the air" when you start. The flight models are beautifully rendered, but you are limited in your choices. Someday, they may expand the stable of airplanes, and the geography, but it's not there yet. It's smoother than anything I've ever flown, with no stutters or FPS variations. It stays at 60 or greater all the time. It does not support my Microsoft FF2 joystick with FF capabiltiy. My stick just becomes a regular stick. Although there is photographic scenery, when you land at a populated airport, the AI there is flat and lacks any kind of depth at all.My point is that FLIGHT, to the best of my limited understanding, will have much more going for it out of the chute! The beautiful islands of Hawaii and potential expansion is great. It may not be a competitor to FSX as we know it.....but we DON'T know that! All the negative comments are truly unfounded. I will definitely buy FLIGHT and expect the Microsoft magic to become part of it. Real Weather, Airport selection and runway selection, and potential expansion QUICKLY.Looking forward to the 28th of February.Stan

Another article

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:05:32 +0000

http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-flight-aiming-to-please-sim-fans-and-newcomers-alike-6350136

If FLIGHT becomes a failure how will investing in DLC affect buyers?

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:03:12 +0000

If FLIGHT becomes a failure how will investing in DLC affect buyers?Even though Microsoft abandoned further FSX development the software is still alive (and well some will say) because of third party developers. But what if FLIGHT fails? Will buyers become stuck with Hawaii (and maybe a couple of other places) and a couple of aircraft?

Well, at least we'll be good at it...

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:04:11 +0000

Before I start,I will be downloading FLIGHT as soon as released, just to try it out, and see how it really is...Anyway, we all know that, if commercial interest is high enough, MS will try to turn FLIGHT into a Massively Multiplayer Online Game (MMOG). If MS does turn flight into a MMOG, (hopefully) thousands of new players will enter the game, and try to succeed in doing whatever FLIGHT's goal is (insert gold coin joke here). Of course, these new players will want to upgrade with new planes, instruments, etc.., the driving force for FLIGHT development. Now where do we, the hardcore simmers who spend hundreds, or even thousands of dollars for our hobby, come in?Well, every game needs to have a top player, right? We've been taught well enough to know what, "those four lights on the left/right of the concrete road" are, and reading instruments is second nature. I know that Microsoft itself won't offer friendly help for new users, so I think that we should stand tall as the "Mentors" of FLIGHT. I also believe that, sometime in the future, there will be posts by 10-year-olds saying, "which one's the speedometer?", or, "how do I lower the landing gear?" We were all there at sometime, wondering what the box with green letters was in the cockpit was, and how do I get it to work.Besides, apparently landing on a runway gets you 500 extra points :( (I actually can't confirm that. Not a beta guy, either)

Why not a Monthly service fee with an SDK

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:33:21 +0000

This isn't a flame on MS, or the supporters of Flight or even the Naysayers but rather and idea I wish Microsoft would entertain. So please read the post before anyone roasts me :-DI was invited to the beta at the beginning of January. I stopped playing after a couple days because I realized that Flight was just going to be a GA only game. Its not that I don't like GA, I like to think I enjoy everything aviation has to offer. I'll even go further and say that I thought Flight was a very smoother running program with excellent characteristics. At first I was angry, now I'm dissapointed but a bit more understanding. They have stockholders they have to answer to and need to keep generating capitol. Perfectly understandable. But as a consumer they do have to answer to us to, I keep hearing people talking about how everyone's got a entitlement mentality. Well I'm the consumer I'd hope they'd want to listen to their market, if not maybe they should listen because there won't be any changes made unless people are allowed to talk. Enough on that.My idea is quite simple, why doesn't Microsoft generate the world give us continuous updates with a monthly subscription fee? I mean I pay MMO's a monthly fee...its a working business model that has had enormous success. That should take away the need to have the DLC's (of course they could keep that around if they wanted extra revenue) and then release an SDK for all the 3PD.I mean think about it, wouldn't everyone have liked to have had continuous updates for FSX? Wouldn't you like to have added features? Think of the potential of a game that is continuously being developed, there would be no need for a FSXII they could just keep developing Flight for hardware updates and what not. Anyways thats my two cents on everything thats happening. I'm not going to bother telling everyone where I stand on 29 Feb, my goal was to just propose a solution to a possible problem Why speak up if you don't have a solution to offer right?A bit about me. I'm a commercial rated Pilot that flies for an Alaskan Part 135 outfit based in Anchorage, AK flying Beech 1900's. I'm also a member of the Alaska Air National Guard flying C-130's. I've been a student and a Instructor. Flown the whole world. Flying is my life, at work and at home. This last thing I'll say without General Aviation there isn't Commercial Aviation and vice versa. I would love to see Flight! encompass all aspects of flying not just one. Brian Thibodeaux

Will Flight avoid this fate?

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:41:54 +0000

If you aren't familiar with Eve Online, it is a massive online space "sim" that many tens of thousands of people play. It it has a massive learning curve, but for those that spend the time learning and practicing, it has become an addiction. The passion for the game is akin to the passion for Flight Simulator.The developers of Eve Online weren't happy to just please their many fans, they wanted more people and more money. So they decided if they dumbed the game down and added additional features like eye-candy and pointless game elements that it would attract new uses. Additionally, the developers decided to add an online store element to the game-- DLC.Guess how it turned out for them... Microsoft you may want to pay attention.Read the link below. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/12/02/eve-online-senior-producer-on-why-we-ultimately-failed-with-incarna/

The Golden Age of Flight Simulators

Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:26:44 +0000

Just discovered this video and thought it would be a good break from Flight. Its from a show done in 1990, and they showcase FS4, and just about every other flight simulator of the time. When the 386 was a state of the art computer. For the more youthful, take notice that store shelves used to be fully stocked with many simulators once upon a time.

So much to do

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:27:24 +0000

To make FLIGHT the simulator of choice.It looks like FLIGHT will be good news for those of us who like the slow and low stuff. But what does it need to become to get everyone to leave the legacy sims behind? I would suggest the following:

Lots of high detail areas ideal for GA flying (outside of Hawaii).
Lots of high detail small and large airports (outside of Hawaii).
Airport operations, AI vehicles, AI passengers.
Detailed aircraft, GA, helicopter and jetliner, at least equal to anything currently available for FSX.
An improved ATC.
An improved AI
Real time weather.
Road traffic.
Rail traffic.
Sims within Sims. Merge land based transport with air transport. Airport operations, Flight operations etc.

What have I missed?How long would it take?What wouldl be the cost?